Hybrid vehicles

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

You might be an anarchist if....

Perhaps I'm adjacent, but I haven't studied the theory much. I'm very inclined to allow individuals great latitude to succeed or fail. That said, it's extreme individualism that prevents a dominant force from emerging that organizes. Examples of this dysfunctional individualism is inventing imaginary sex identities, or any other "I identify as" nonsense.

I identify as supreme lord of all the universe, so not submitting to my truth means you're a bigot. There's limits to anarchy, and reality has a lot to do with it.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by S Keith

Details matter.

70% of those switching back did not have access to level 2 charging, and charging was a huge hassle for them.

Dropping that 20% down below 10% changes the picture a bit.

Yes my observation has been at least half of ev drivers only level 1 charged at home. Problem is some portion of the people who didn't have a level 2 receptacle installed may have tried and gotten like $3,000 to $5,000 quote because they needed a service upgrade.
I used level 1 for a few months to see how bad it sucked. I still had my gas car. I could drive the leaf 2 days, then the gas car 1 day and that was summer. I could tell winter was going to be every other day so I got that level 2 going. I used to get like 4.8 miles per kw level 1 charging. Now I get like 3.8 because I drive 75mph to and from work and don't worry about charging times.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

...you're a bigot. There's limits to anarchy,

You conflate anarchism and anarchy.

Anarchism
Anarchism is a political philosophy and movement that is skeptical of authority and rejects all involuntary, coercive forms of hierarchy. Anarchism calls for the abolition of the state, which it holds to be unnecessary, undesirable, and harmful.Wikipedia

[oil pan 4]

Abolition of "the state" is one of the big points of Marxism.

[freebeard]

I take your point, but I think we're already over some invisible line.

[Drifter]

Originally Posted by S Keith

Details matter.

70% of those switching back did not have access to level 2 charging, and charging was a huge hassle for them.

Dropping that 20% down below 10% changes the picture a bit.

That isn't representative of what I saw. A big chunk of early (middle-class) EV adopters had level 2 charging at home or work, but experienced horrific battery degradation that Nissan & Mitsubishi called normal in the Leaf & iMiev. True, those consumers often contributed to the battery degradation by fast charging to 100% in hot weather, but the manufacturers did a poor job of explaining battery care and capacity expectations.

The result was those consumers saw their $30,000-$40,000 car worth $5,000 in 5 years as it struggled to go 25 miles in the summer heat or winter cold. They had to give up after-work social activities because they only had enough range to go straight home.

A lot of those people swore off EVs altogether. My sister swore off EV-only and ended up buying a plug-in hybrid. And a PHEV remains a great choice for a 1-car owner - 100% of the commuting is electric, but then you've got 400 miles of gasoline range (and 3-minute refills) after that for spontaneous fun stuff.

[oil pan 4]

And that's why hybrids make sense for most people.

I have a leaf with a 2014 battery in it and I'm still at 80% capacity. Sounds like original chemistry leaf battery syndrome. The craptastic 2011- early2013 leaf batteries.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Drifter

PHEV remains a great choice for a 1-car owner

Which seems to be the case of the overwhelming majority of car owners on a worldwide basis, even at households with more than one car, or a car and a motorcycle.