Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-01-2020, 12:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Earth
Posts: 632
Thanks: 28
Thanked 148 Times in 116 Posts
Ah ****, I just lost my reply- I give up.

My plan is to start with an old car and modify it to be shaped like the BOCruiser, choose an engine that produces the horsepower needed to move it at 60 mph near its maximum efficiency, and add a turbocharger for accelerating (if needed).

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 10-01-2020, 12:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
Corporate imperialist
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,266

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 273
Thanked 3,569 Times in 2,833 Posts
Hey wasn't there a guy who put a 3cyl kubota diesel in a metro and was getting around 100mpg?
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2020, 12:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Earth
Posts: 632
Thanks: 28
Thanked 148 Times in 116 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
Hey wasn't there a guy who put a 3cyl kubota diesel in a metro and was getting around 100mpg?
What's a CHAdeMO?
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2020, 12:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
mpg_numbers_guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: VA
Posts: 1,372

Toby - '13 Toyota Prius C
Team Toyota
90 day: 63.99 mpg (US)

Daz - '15 Mazda 3 iTouring w/ Tech Package
Team Mazda
90 day: 38.2 mpg (US)
Thanks: 324
Thanked 483 Times in 368 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtlethargic View Post
My plan is to start with an old car and modify it to be shaped like the BOCruiser, choose an engine that produces the horsepower needed to move it at 60 mph near its maximum efficiency, and add a turbocharger for accelerating (if needed).
Do you have the bodywork experience required to modify such a car to become more aerodynamic while maintaining that vintage car look?

Quote:
Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
Hey wasn't there a guy who put a 3cyl kubota diesel in a metro and was getting around 100mpg?
100 mpg would require serious ecomods in a Metro. A metro is basically a far less aerodynamic Insight with a less efficient engine. The Insight can get 100 mpg up to ~50-55 mph stock. There is a thread about a seriously modded metro that supposedly gets Insight-like numbers (probably could do better than the Insight if it had the Insight drivetrain) here. Funkhoss averaged over 90 mpg for 90 days in his Metro, but that's with mods and serious hypermiling, not 60 mph driving.
__________________
2013 Toyota Prius C 2 (my car)


2015 Mazda 3 iTouring Hatchback w/ Tech Package (wife's car)
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2020, 01:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Earth
Posts: 632
Thanks: 28
Thanked 148 Times in 116 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpg_numbers_guy View Post
Do you have the bodywork experience required to modify such a car to become more aerodynamic while maintaining that vintage car look?
Not yet.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to sgtlethargic For This Useful Post:
M_a_t_t (10-01-2020)
Old 10-01-2020, 04:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
マット
 
M_a_t_t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Indiana
Posts: 718

The Van - '95 Chevy Astro Cl V8 Swapped
Team Chevy
90 day: 7.84 mpg (US)

The new bike - '17 Kawasaki Versys X 300 abs
Motorcycle
90 day: 71.94 mpg (US)

The Mercury - '95 Mercury Tracer Trio
Team Ford
90 day: 34.35 mpg (US)

Toyota - '22 Toyota Corolla Hatchback
90 day: 40.11 mpg (US)
Thanks: 131
Thanked 258 Times in 188 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
Hey wasn't there a guy who put a 3cyl kubota diesel in a metro and was getting around 100mpg?
I think you are thinking of changzuki's car

https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...xed-23497.html

There was a guy who did a kubota swap in a metro, but I don't think he ever got it on the road (atleast not that he mentioned in his thread)


https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...geo-32945.html
__________________
1973 Fiat 124 Special
1975 Honda Civic CVCC 4spd
1981 Kawasaki KZ750E
1981 Kawasaki KZ650 CSR
1983 Kawasaki KZ1100-A3
1986 Nissan 300zx Turbo 5 spd
1995 Chevy Astro RWD (current project)
1995 Mercury Tracer
2017 Kawasaki VersysX 300
2022 Corolla Hatchback 6MT

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6s...LulDUQ8HMj5VKA
  Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to M_a_t_t For This Useful Post:
elhigh (10-03-2020), Fat Charlie (10-02-2020), RedDevil (10-01-2020)
Old 10-01-2020, 05:50 PM   #17 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,060
Thanks: 107
Thanked 1,605 Times in 1,136 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtlethargic View Post
Ah ****, I just lost my reply- I give up.

My plan is to start with an old car and modify it to be shaped like the BOCruiser, choose an engine that produces the horsepower needed to move it at 60 mph near its maximum efficiency, and add a turbocharger for accelerating (if needed).
And you've got the mechanical and electronics background to do that? Turbo selection; fabrication of the exhaust manifold, intake plumbing, intercooler plumbing; development of engine management, changing the fuel system and injectors - and so on?

Maybe I am pretty slow, but just turbocharging my Insight and fitting and mapping the engine management was, for me, a year-long project on its own.

And I have done turbo and electronics work on cars plenty of times before!
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JulianEdgar For This Useful Post:
Fat Charlie (10-02-2020)
Old 10-01-2020, 07:13 PM   #18 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,557
Thanks: 8,092
Thanked 8,882 Times in 7,329 Posts
Thanks for not getting half done before asking for opinions.

Personally, I'd be most comfortable with a Beetle floorpan.







The taper at the front compared to a Ghia/Type III pan will accommodate modern front wheelwells and a beam extender can increase the wheelbase by ~8".



To accommodate the rear engine follow Luigi Colani:





<airframe//powerplant>

You can put almost anything on a VW bellhousing. Pinto, TDI diesel, electric, & etc.

For a pure electric, the Lexus Highlander 68hp axle. For a hybrid boxer or inline three/four, the GM E-Assist serpentine belted 20hp altermotor.
______________

Else, clone Aerocivic.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.

Last edited by freebeard; 10-01-2020 at 07:18 PM..
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
RustyLugNut (10-02-2020)
Old 10-01-2020, 07:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
Corporate imperialist
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,266

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 273
Thanked 3,569 Times in 2,833 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtlethargic View Post
What's a CHAdeMO?
It's a rapid charger.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
  Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2020, 08:03 PM   #20 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,557
Thanks: 8,092
Thanked 8,882 Times in 7,329 Posts
It's a charging standard.

Quote:
CHAdeMO
chademo.com
CHAdeMO is the trade name of a quick charging method for battery electric vehicles delivering up to 62.5 kW by 500 V, 125 A direct current via a special electrical connector. A revised CHAdeMO 2.0 specification allows for up to 400 kW by 1000 V, 400 A direct current.Wikipedia

__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com