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Old 05-18-2008, 11:34 AM   #11 (permalink)
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i was vegetarian for a while. when i worked for the great cow god burger king that is.... anyhow now 98% of the meat i eat is either chicken or fish, pork is against my religion (and that stuff is terrible for you anyways :yuck: ) and eating beef is rare for me... about the calorie intake thing, i am highly active and well under the sugested caloric intake, (i have a banana for breakfast, rarely have lunch and have a small or medium dinner which is mostly vegetables with a piece of chicken or fish)

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Old 05-18-2008, 11:48 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I consume more, only due to the fact I have a very high metabolism and run 3 miles every other morning.
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meat can only provide about 10% of the energy plants (like grains) can.

Energetically, meat is very expensive (it takes about 10 kg grain to make 1 kg of beef. As corn meal, the grain will supply the energy needs of 23 people, but feed to chickens, only 2)


It also takes more energy to make the energy for the things that make meat. For example:


It takes a certain amount of grain, to make enough bread to feed one person.

It takes 10 times the amount of grain, to feed the cows, to make enough meat to feed one person.

Plants are more efficiently better for the environment, and for the food chains and everything else.

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Old 05-18-2008, 01:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I consume more, only due to the fact I have a very high metabolism and run 3 miles every other morning.
Must really be high. Blessing and a curse. Always skinny but cost lots of money to stay fed.
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I also have a very high metabolism. I don't think it costs more money, you just eat more simple carbs that are cheaper than eating meats and stuff. Lots of bread and pop-tarts
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meat can only provide about 10% of the energy plants (like grains) can.

Energetically, meat is very expensive (it takes about 10 kg grain to make 1 kg of beef. As corn meal, the grain will supply the energy needs of 23 people, but feed to chickens, only 2)


It also takes more energy to make the energy for the things that make meat. For example:


It takes a certain amount of grain, to make enough bread to feed one person.

It takes 10 times the amount of grain, to feed the cows, to make enough meat to feed one person.

Plants are more efficiently better for the environment, and for the food chains and everything else.

Not to say vegetarianism is a bad thing, but most of the food we feed to livestock is not fit for human consumption. In that sense, if we didn't eat some meat, a lot of that feed would essentially be wasted.
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Not to say vegetarianism is a bad thing, but most of the food we feed to livestock is not fit for human consumption. In that sense, if we didn't eat some meat, a lot of that feed would essentially be wasted.
They say the same thing about the stuff used to produce ethanol, and we're steal seeing food price inflation because edible crops are being produced in lesser quantities in order to make room for ethanol-producing land.
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They say the same thing about the stuff used to produce ethanol, and we're steal seeing food price inflation because edible crops are being produced in lesser quantities in order to make room for ethanol-producing land.
I'd like to argue that a large part of the food inflation is due to the dollar going down the toilet in relation to all tangible goods.

To further elaborate. If the dollar is worth less, the seasonal pickers that migrate need to be paid more. If the dollar is worth less and oil costs more, it costs a lot more to run the farm equipment. Both of these are heavily affecting the local farms of New England where we do not make any ethanol.
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^^ i agree^^
either way you have to feed livestock, and have a place for them, unless you would sugest genocide..... but then thats a whole issue on its own. atleast with the meat industry we get something back, and honestly, who wants to go eat grass anyways?? i can think of better tasting things than that.
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I was born a vegetarian. Then later on in my life I started eating chicken and recently (within the last couple of months) turkey. So I'm whatever a chicken/turkey eating vegetarian is called.

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