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Except it doesn't?  The side view shows three-row seating. The Jones patent does show the trailing wheel tracking the outside front. |
We need better information on the Pillbug's seating layout, maybe some of the patents were not utilized.
https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...rwagen-109011/
///KarzN****///: '36 Schlörwagen Pillbug
The Schlörwagen: The Autobahn Cruiser That Wasn't - Revivaler
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Interestingly the Schlörwagen had good interior space for the driver and six passengers who were seated on two bench seats each accommodating three adults. The driver position was central at the front ahead of the two bench seats.
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Maybe it was for a flat radial engine?
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The Schlörwagen or “Pillbug†– A Slippery Little Teardrop Car | The Old Motor
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Our curiosity was piqued by the patent drawing we discovered of a very similar car from more than a decade earlier by an obscure Romanian engineer named Aurel Persu. While Schlör’s design bears an uncanny resemblance to it, this was more likely attributable to the unchanging laws of physics rather than any conscious attempt on his part to steal the idea.
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Either or?
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10-25-2018, 05:26 PM
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We have seen vintage photos of this vehicle before, but this model exposes us to some new views.
Persu Experimental limousine
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Maybe it was for a flat radial engine?
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No, it was built on a Mercedes 170H chassis which was a rear engine:
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5:06 'Ticket window'. 
It's nice and all, but there's something hanging down next to the left rear tire. Needs rear fender skirts.
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No, it was built on a Mercedes 170H chassis which was a rear engine:
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Right, I've seen and posted that image before self.
What I meant to say was Pill bug Mercedes rear engine - known.
Persu has various packaging layouts on various cars including a horizontally opposed Boxer flat engine in the middle of the car and under the seats.
If the seating turntable was not a feature in that earlier image, then could one scheme with a Patent accommodate and be planned for as a flat radial engine...............is what I was trying to get at.
The three theories for the circle in plan are:
1. Simply a structural feature, a circle in lieu of a wishbone or "X" cross framing common back in the day.
2. A seating turntable fitment point (like a gun turret).
3. A structural opening intended for under floor pan cooling/access for a mid-engine.........might be a flat Boxer engine (A), might be a flat radial engine (B), might even be a battery pack location for an electric version (C), the options are dependent on your imagination (E to be named).
Passenger Car Aerodynamics
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Electrolite el-11, a 3 wheeled electrothon vehicle built by E. Michael Lewis
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Plenty of experimental vehicles have achieved this level of streamlining before, but what makes the SIM LEI different is that it's a car you could actually see a small family using as its primary vehicle. Or at least in Japan, where small cars are already the norm. The car is unusually long for its width, in order to accommodate cargo and further reduce its air resistance.
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I remember that one. The anti-intrusion bars are on the outside of the doors so as to make them thinner.
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4. A bearing for a circular jack so it can be turned around in the driveway in zero length?
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