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Old 11-20-2018, 12:40 PM   #2891 (permalink)
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A slightly larger version of this car is where we should be headed. Tandem seating. Normal compact car track. Standard bumper height. All wheel drive hub motors. Top speed of 80mph. NO radar, cameras, or airbags.
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We are wasting resources to mandate safety and self driving to the point where every car must be 2,000 kg with a 500 kg battery and cost $40,000.
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The Cd 0.156, 2006 VW 1-liter car was their inspiration.

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Old 11-21-2018, 08:12 AM   #2892 (permalink)
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The Cd 0.156, 2006 VW 1-liter car was their inspiration.
$60,000 unobtainium unfortunately. All of the start ups such as Electra Meccanica and Archimoto are relegated to building three wheelers in order to circumvent nanny state crash testing. Mandating every car to obviate user responsibility via 500 kg's and $5,000 of safety structure and equipment is regressive. It prohibits development of ultralight 4 wheeled transportation which would be much more sustainable than the 2,000 kg monsters we are stuck making now. This mandate killed Aptera.
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You could put that body on an Arcimoto FUV chassis, with outrigger wheely bars in the rear corners.
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$60,000 unobtainium unfortunately. All of the start ups such as Electra Meccanica and Archimoto are relegated to building three wheelers in order to circumvent nanny state crash testing. Mandating every car to obviate user responsibility via 500 kg's and $5,000 of safety structure and equipment is regressive. It prohibits development of ultralight 4 wheeled transportation which would be much more sustainable than the 2,000 kg monsters we are stuck making now. This mandate killed Aptera.
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3 billion people cannot all have a 2,000 kg car that costs $40,000.
All you have to do,is rearrange the ink on the page,to make that regulation go away.
A Presidential Executive Order could do that.
I could mass-produce 100-mpg+ commuter cars at no more than $11,000 each,all day long.No technological barriers at all.Just bureaucrats.
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All you have to do,is rearrange the ink on the page,to make that regulation go away.
A Presidential Executive Order could do that.
I could mass-produce 100-mpg+ commuter cars at no more than $11,000 each,all day long.No technological barriers at all.Just bureaucrats.
How do we change the narative to wake people. Mandates and markets come from the masses. Let's get busy.
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How do we change the narative to wake people. Mandates and markets come from the masses. Let's get busy.
All of our vehicles would come from India if this were done.

Intended or not there is a propping of of the status quo across the globe.

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During the Cold War, the U.S. chicken industry aggressively grew and what was once considered a luxury became a staple of the American diet. American chicken farmers started exporting their product around the world, and other countries accused farmers of unfair trade practices and artificially altering the meat. In response, France and West Germany, looking to protect local chicken production and a perceived threat to the health of their citizens, placed a tariff on the U.S. chicken imports. The U.S. responded in 1963, under President Lyndon B. Johnson, by placing a 25 percent tariff on potato starch, dextrin, brandy and light trucks — yes, light trucks.

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The tariff worked and in 1964, West Germany truck imports declined to one-third of the imported number from 1963. VW van sales and imports rapidly declined to insignificant numbers.....................

During the past 50 years, the original tariff has been modified and removed on every product except for light trucks.
A little more up to date.

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Trump's trade war could threaten US pickup production and jobs
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The Trump administration’s burgeoning automotive trade war could threaten U.S. production of some of automakers’ most popular and profitable vehicles.

At stake is an obscure 1960s tariff that effectively guarantees that every pickup and delivery van sold in the United States is built in North America, most of them in the U.S. by American workers.

Administration statements ultimately seeking zero automotive tariffs suggest the folks in charge don’t realize just how much American manufacturing and workers benefit from the little-known tariff.
My point, no vehicles get made in the US without the light trucks supporting the bottom line of the US companies and they only exist because of protectionism.

Didn't Ford say they were going all truck with just the Mustang and a couple of other cars being made?

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