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Old 10-16-2020, 01:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
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In most forums, the lounge is where people talk about whatever they want, and people can choose to engage or not. On SlickDeals for instance, there is "The Podium" where you can talk about any subject you want. People wanting to avoid those discussions can.

Ideas should be fair game to attack, but Ad Hominems should warrant a warning, and further infractions should incur a temporary ban.

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Old 10-16-2020, 01:39 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Time out is for kiddies.

Trying to manage differences in personalities is futile.

This was like the “climate change thread” where people posted facts as they saw them. They wore their convictions on their sleeves and fought to convince others.

It made it interesting and entertaining...

This is (was) no different.


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Old 10-16-2020, 02:00 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Time out is for kiddies.

Trying to manage differences in personalities is futile.

This was like the “climate change thread” where people posted facts as they saw them. They wore their convictions on their sleeves and fought to convince others.

It made it interesting and entertaining...

This is (was) no different.
I missed what was happening in the aerodynamics conflict other than the thread saying Aerohead was 2nd fiddle on the subject.

The climate change thread had some pretty nasty personal insults posted, which were removed fairly quickly. That likely precipitated locking the thread more than the back and forth exchanges of ideas.
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Old 10-16-2020, 02:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
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"Let them fight."
I think there needs to be heavy moderation so that the aerodynamic issues can be hashed out in a better manner, as it is with many public debates.

Or, nobody's special: Follow the forum rules or risk more punitive bans.
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Old 10-16-2020, 02:55 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Yes. It is not about the fighting per se, but even fights have rules.
Repeated ad hominems, insults, harassment, all these things should lead to warnings and eventually a ban, of course depending on the severity.

We all like freedom but some can't handle the responsibility that comes with it, else there'd be no need for jails.

It is a pity that it escalated so badly. Should we have flagged their comments?
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I've never reported any posts other than spammers. Sometimes I will comment that behavior should be considered more carefully. I'd rather confront someone directly than report them to the authorities.

I've suggested edits to posts before, and people have responded positively to that recommendation. I just like people to have the chance to redeem themselves before we jump to cancelling.
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I was just thinking about Goethe's vs Newton's color theory. Two completely different takes on the same physical phenomenon. I like them both. Newton's for it's nod to the octave in the electromagnetic spectrum; Goethe's for mansplaining why the sky is blue and sunsets are orange using the fringes on black and white shadows.

Then Arthur M. Young goes deep under both of them. duckduckgo.com/?q=reflexive+universe

The forum culture could adopt Robert Anton Wilson's Maybe Logic.
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I like reading about areas that I can't study, especially areas like aerodynamics where it's a hard science... except when it isn't.

But I don't have to come here to watch adults fight.
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... Should we have flagged their comments?
There were at least a couple efforts to ask them to chill by other members. It's really a job for the mods. Members just end up ignored or bickering. The third way would be freebeardian irony.
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I have been gone for a while, checked this forum on a whim today and saw this announcement. It saddens me that we all can't just agree to disagree.

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