invest in a K&N air filter

[RedDevil]

I can imagine how he (probably) really saw an improvement just after fitting the K&N filter in an A-B test situation.

I had a proper test situation today driving the same route twice: dropping my wife and stuff off at the flea market, then picking her up again with 95% of the stuff we brought.
First trip: 6.0 l/100 km (for about 10 km of city driving)
Second trip: 5.4 l/100 km. About 11% better.
Same driving style, very much the same conditions. But the engine was still a bit warm. And then there's the hybrid system with a mind of its own; heavy regen in the first trip.
A single A-B test gain will not cut it.

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by RedDevil

????

Why would my claim not be sincere?
Write like (s?)he's dead? I've reread my post several times, don't see that.
(edit) I was addressing the forum in general, not the OP (save the hyphened welcome) is that insincere?
I don't laugh at the other posters. I call for restraint.
My post is lame you say. In your eyes maybe. I shrug that off.

I think the way things turned out has already proved my point.

My point is, you never addressed the poster! Offered nothing of the "warm and fuzzy" welcome you claimed the rest of us ignored. You did Exactly what we did. Just with different words.
Here do this....write a post as the second person to post on this thread.......do it now....
See... A different post than what you wrote
I really have to explain this to you!!!

And actually, nothing has been "proven". The op is hiding behind your post...like an intern would.
Look, there are patterns that happen with new poster. This op failed the pattern.
Next, this would have to be a complete and total newbie to any and all forum postings for me to buy into this one.

[RedDevil]

Originally Posted by mcrews

My point is, you never addressed the poster! Offered nothing of the "warm and fuzzy" welcome you claimed the rest of us ignored. You did Exactly what we did. Just with different words.
Here do this....write a post as the second person to post on this thread.......do it now....
See... A different post than what you wrote
I really have to explain this to you!!!

And actually, nothing has been "proven". The op is hiding behind your post...like an intern would.
Look, there are patterns that happen with new poster. This op failed the pattern.
Next, this would have to be a complete and total newbie to any and all forum postings for me to buy into this one.

I was addressing the forum, to start a discussion about how we should respond to situations like these.
I (despite not adressing the OP, intentionally) was the first to say welcome, maybe not as warm and fuzzy as you would have liked, but nonetheless.
Your first post was ahead of mine, chiming in with the 'sheet' name jokes.

Now you are fine graining my comments and conduct. That really is uncalled for.

But I will put more effort in a warm welcome next time a situation like this arises.

[mcrews]

No it really is!
Again, you ignored the poster and stole their thread! Now you have a thread on "behavior"...the thread is about k&n fulter.
Start your own thread if you believe so strongly in your topic. But don't get "righteous " when you ignore the op's topic.
What is interesting here is "your view":
"I do not like what you all did so I'm going to call you out". Yet you (STILL) have ignored the facts of your own behavior. Had you posted on topic to engage the op then you would have some leg to stand on....but you ignored the op and the tread topic...you hijacked op's thread. Where does hijacking a thread fall under YOUR rules of order?

[UltArc]

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Please, add an introduction thread so we can get to know you a bit!

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[Frank Lee]

...and look at the "other" K&N thread (some magazine B.S. on an F150) to see where we came from.

[RedDevil]

@mcrews, I get your point but like to point out 2 things:
- Though my post was not relevant to the OP topic, it was to the thread itself and the responses in it.
- You've spent 3 posts in this thread attacking me, which is not relevant to the OP topic. I respond to that and you claim I hijack the thread AGAIN!
I have the right to answer when addressed to, especially when that was accompanied by so much negativity. I respond because you make me do that.

You will not change my views as I know I'm in the right. I don't have the illusion that I can change yours. Nothing good will come from continuing on like this.
If you want to have the last say, go ahead and respond to this post. I end it here.
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[sarguy01]

I have a K&N. If someone sends me their used 7th gen Civic paper filter, I'll go test them ABA. I don't feel like wasting 10$ on a filter I don't need.

[johnathanf1lm]

Well i never got to do a a-b test when i had one of these in my rio back when i had it but any gain was canceled out by the 100+ bill to get the map sensor cleaned thanks to the oil from the filter.

[sarguy01]

Originally Posted by johnathanf1lm

Well i never got to do a a-b test when i had one of these in my rio back when i had it but any gain was canceled out by the 100+ bill to get the map sensor cleaned thanks to the oil from the filter.

Was that with a new filter or after you re-oiled it?