11-06-2010, 03:41 PM
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Not gonna lie I think that wasting 0.001mpg more gas is worth not looking like a tool. Nothing you do to a Jeep will increase gas mileage significantly. If this is what you are concerned with there are plenty of hybrid suv's out there that you don't have to make look like a space ship. I know that Wrangler is a "cool" status symbol but dude, if you aren't going to use it for what it's made for get a cheaper suv that is better on gas. There are plenty of suv's that get upwards of 25mpg (jeep gets 15...maybe) that don't cost $25,000-$30,000. Wrong tool for the wrong job. This is like using a laptop computer to hammer a nail. It doesn't work like that.
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12-01-2010, 10:58 AM
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Not gonna lie I think that wasting 0.001mpg more gas is worth not looking like a tool.
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You are clearly on the wrong forum.
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12-01-2010, 11:23 AM
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You are clearly on the wrong forum.
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No, he's not.
It's all about picking the right vehicle for one's needs.
That'll mean the vehicle can do what it has to do in a most efficient manner.
It's the most important fuel efficiency mod one can possibly do.
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12-01-2010, 11:39 AM
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No, he's not.
It's all about picking the right vehicle for one's needs.
That'll mean the vehicle can do what it has to do in a most efficient manner.
It's the most important fuel efficiency mod one can possibly do.
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His point about vehicle selection was reasonable. But a notable percentage of all posts here on EM are goofy looking aroe mods with minimal gains (and that's how I like it).
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12-01-2010, 11:58 AM
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No, he's not.
It's all about picking the right vehicle for one's needs.
That'll mean the vehicle can do what it has to do in a most efficient manner.
It's the most important fuel efficiency mod one can possibly do.
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It's the attitude that reveals the poster is on the wrong site. From what I can tell, it's what you do with what you've got that matters, so berating someone for their vehicle selection is contrary to the spirit of this site.
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12-01-2010, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by me.facePalm()
Not gonna lie I think that wasting 0.001mpg more gas is worth not looking like a tool. Nothing you do to a Jeep will increase gas mileage significantly. If this is what you are concerned with there are plenty of hybrid suv's out there that you don't have to make look like a space ship. I know that Wrangler is a "cool" status symbol but dude, if you aren't going to use it for what it's made for get a cheaper suv that is better on gas. There are plenty of suv's that get upwards of 25mpg (jeep gets 15...maybe) that don't cost $25,000-$30,000. Wrong tool for the wrong job. This is like using a laptop computer to hammer a nail. It doesn't work like that.
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What jeep do YOU drive? my I6 powered NO aero mods LIFTED 4" 31" mudders 88 Cherokee with 496,000 miles gets 22mpg on my daily commute and I have hit 25-26mpg on pure highway driving.
at least when I have E0 for it. subtract 20% with E10.
you are CLEARLY on the wrong site if you think buying a hybrid is the solution to ANYTHING except that of emptying your wallet. it will never ever pay for itself in fuel savings. not one penny.
I drive 40k a year and a prius would take 68 years just to break even assuming I put NOTHING into it in that 68 years. thats a lot of miles. I don't even think the CHASSIS would last that long not to speak of all the moving parts.
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12-01-2010, 01:48 PM
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wow, 40k a year
it would take me over 6 years to rack 40k
but look into trackers and sidekicks (zukiworld.com)
they like building them up for about $5k and then outperforming $25k jeeps on the trail
mine gets 24mpg in town driving
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12-01-2010, 03:52 PM
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Facepalm - Very few Jeeps are bad enough to get 15 mpg on the highway. I have broken 21 mpg highway in mine, and it's got a massive, gas sucking 5.9 liter V8. Plus, a Grand Cherokee is bigger and heavier than Nerys' Cherokee. Oh, and this is on E10.
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12-03-2010, 01:32 PM
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Grrr :-)
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yeah on E10 I get 19 if I am lucky :-( horrible horrible stuff. I think part of it is the ZJ is a little more aero than the XJ (they are freaking bricks :-) and I think they are geared lower but i love how small and nimble they are.
mine is a very capable offroader (that actually DOES GO off road) that also makes a nice looking and comfortable daily driver (not any more :-) can't afford to fill the tank twice a week anymore :-)
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12-03-2010, 01:50 PM
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The ZJ is a bit more aero, with a .45 cd vs .51 on the XJ. However, the ZJ has a bit more frontal area, so I think it's about even in the end. The top gear in the ZJ tranny is a little taller, but the V8s have slightly lower axle gears than I6 XJs or ZJs, so the difference isn't much (with 245/70R16 tires, it's a difference of 1815 rpm vs 1760 rpm at 60mph). Plus, I'm handicapped by an almost 50% larger engine.
I think it comes down to the Renix EFI on your '88 being more sensitive to E10 than most. I've never had an opportunity to run mine on E0, so I don't know how it compares.
I agree on the capable offroader and nice DD combo. The ZJ is a hair less nimble than an XJ, but not by much. It still handles pretty well. Fortunately, I don't drive enough for the fuel cost to kill me. Up here in college, I've been getting 1 - 3 weeks to a tank, rather than 6 - 10 days at home.
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