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Old 05-23-2018, 02:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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L.A. is Plasti-Dipping their streets.

They claim they are making their roads white--it goes on white, but dries grey, and they say it leaves the surface 10° cooler. It costs $40,000 per mile and lasts seven years. One complaint? Yes, it reflects the rising and setting sun. https://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/cl...ainted-streets

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Or, you could simply pave in concrete, which is a legitimate option in sunny California.
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Sounds horrible to drive on due to the increased light, but hey, the road is 10 degrees cooler, so who cares that it costs a fortune and will cause more accidents.

I read somewhere that concrete roads are more cost effective in the long run than asphalt, but nobody wants to front the initial cost. It also reduces rolling resistance if I remember correctly.
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Asphalt roads are 7dB quieter than concrete, so there is that. Turning the volume down | Asphalt magazine

Ten or fifteen years ago a radio host commented he was looking forward to driving on the newly-rubberized section of the 101, which made his car feel like a Mercedes.
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I thought sunny CA would have roads made of solar cells by now.
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Asphalt roads are 7dB quieter than concrete, so there is that. Turning the volume down | Asphalt magazine

Ten or fifteen years ago a radio host commented he was looking forward to driving on the newly-rubberized section of the 101, which made his car feel like a Mercedes.
Oh Oh! If that reduces the effectiveness of all that "Rolling Thunder's" muffler deletes and sub-woofers, what will they do to get the attention they crave?

If the roads are rubberized and squishy, do we still need tires?
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If the roads are rubberized and squishy, do we still need tires?
Years ago, I asked my dad "Why don't they make roads out of rubber, and tires out of concrete?" thinking, we'd never have to replace tires. (Yeah, I was THAT young.) He just looked at me like I was the fool that I was.

What's the idea of rubberized roads. A place to get rid of worn out tires?
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Twenty years ago I passed a crew resurfacing a road. A truck's tires were covered with asphalt.

How long do those tires last? Do they need to replace them when they have too much asphalt?
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I read somewhere that concrete roads are more cost effective in the long run than asphalt, but nobody wants to front the initial cost. It also reduces rolling resistance if I remember correctly.

Big difference. There's a reason that NEDC "cheating" test facilities use trick asphalt... you get a mathematical bonus for using asphalt in the tests, because it is higher friction than concrete. Then you slick it down for lower friction and take advantage of the unfair multipliers.

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