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Old 11-08-2010, 11:00 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Illinois is flat, PA around Troy is not. The unemployment rate is still high in this area. To say cycling is "meant" to be gas free may reflect a particular philosophy but there is little historical evidence to support that position. Many early bicycle builders motorized and modern brands still do, ie Giant and Cannondale. I enjoy my high tech Jamis Aragon but I still keep a Huffy 3spd for speed play in traffic. Appropriate technology is an important part of a sustainable society and we do well to avoid preconceived notions about what is eco-friendly versus eco-chic.

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Old 11-09-2010, 01:44 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I like non motorized bikes, and I like motorized bikes. I don't think euro should have had his isht jumped on for his 2-stroker comment tho'- it's true, they barf 1/2 the fuel/oil out the exhaust and they sound obnoxious. I have a BikeBug that does that and it pi$$e$ me off. FOUR stroke all the way baby! Or even electric... but there is that range limitation/anxiety thing for sure, as well as very real cold temp performance reductions.
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looks like a fun project... Keep it up to date i would like to see how it turns out. Yes I know many people did it before but... I am not watching their threads i am watching this one. good luck and I hope you find the time soon.
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Don't mean to come across as the thought police. The originator of this thread has moved on to a motorcycle project. My experience with a 2-stroke bike motor has been positive partly because I had it checked out by a motorcycle shop. A clean 2-stroke is possible, Aprilia uses a direct injection system to meet emission spec. Tough to beat a good 4-stroke like the Mitsubishi with full emission controls. As soon as NYS passes the electric bike legislation I want to get one and add an ultra capacitor for stop and go travel. I will make sure the thing stops in 30 feet from 30 mph!
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Don't mean to come across as the thought police. The originator of this thread has moved on to a motorcycle project. My experience with a 2-stroke bike motor has been positive partly because I had it checked out by a motorcycle shop. A clean 2-stroke is possible, Aprilia uses a direct injection system to meet emission spec. Tough to beat a good 4-stroke like the Mitsubishi with full emission controls. As soon as NYS passes the electric bike legislation I want to get one and add an ultra capacitor for stop and go travel. I will make sure the thing stops in 30 feet from 30 mph!
Hey grant the last point you made about braking from that speed if you didn't already they make nice disc brake setups for mountain bikes. good luck
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Old 11-13-2010, 04:28 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I haven't "moved on" perse... I just want to get the Ninja 250 I bought running properly to use as a winter bike. And now, since I've moved into a trailer I purchased (read: headache), and all the repairs/etc that need to be performed, plus working 84+ hours every week (haven't had an official day off in 28 days. I started 33 days ago.) and the lack of availability of internet service in the mobile park I now reside in, means that I have little time for anything, and even less time to talk about it.

At some point, the fuel tank for my Ninja 250 should be arriving. The KZ250 is a "pet" project that isn't going anywhere fast, and this thread will have some updates eventually as well, all in due time. Sorry guys.

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Side note - Crist, what makes it illegal (technically) in PA?
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Side note - Crist, what makes it illegal (technically) in PA?
In order to make the vehicle road legal, it must be registered. In order to be registered, it must be insured and, thus, titled. Neither can be done without it first being serialized. Since most std pedal bikes don't have an on-road or DOT serial number, that makes it illegal to use a home built motorized bike on public roads in PA, including electrics and assisted effort bikes.

That pretty much sums it up.
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You can go through the home-built legalization route. Here, you fill out an app, have the State Patrol inspect it, then hand over your money.
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You can go through the home-built legalization route. Here, you fill out an app, have the State Patrol inspect it, then hand over your money.
yeah, but if I'm gonna go through all that, I'm gonna make something worth the time.

Out here, you have to have a build sheet, receipts, etc. It's a PITA.

The other option is to plead ignorance when I finally get caught riding it.

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