Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Motorcycles / Scooters
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-01-2012, 10:27 PM   #71 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East coast of Australia
Posts: 393

Yella Peril - '80 Mercedes 240D sedan
Thanks: 15
Thanked 41 Times in 17 Posts
You could get a Hatz, probably a better engine.

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 01-01-2012, 10:45 PM   #72 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: San Francisco, CA USA
Posts: 142
Thanks: 6
Thanked 53 Times in 31 Posts
About our products | Villiers Australia

"Manufactured in China to strict Villiers specifications and standards of quality . . . ."

I have to admit that the combination of "Villiers quality" and "made in China" would not make me hugely confident. But then I've got old English motorcycles.



cheers,
Michael
__________________
http://www.eurospares.com
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2012, 11:07 PM   #73 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East coast of Australia
Posts: 393

Yella Peril - '80 Mercedes 240D sedan
Thanks: 15
Thanked 41 Times in 17 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Moore View Post
About our products | Villiers Australia

"Manufactured in China to strict Villiers specifications and standards of quality . . . ."

I have to admit that the combination of "Villiers quality" and "made in China" would not make me hugely confident. But then I've got old English motorcycles.



cheers,
Michael
I take your point but

''FEATURES
all Villiers engines have a cast iron sleeve in the bore and heavy duty roller bearings on both
ends of the crankshaft
the Villiers engines also feature easy starting with automatic decompression and are extremely
quiet running''

is what caught my eye .It sounds like a quite an improvement and I've owned a few Villiers and found them to be slow and usually quite dependable.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2012, 11:11 PM   #74 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
I have what I think is a Lifan 212cc gas, also with cast iron bore, bearings, forged crank, and such. It looks nice, the specs seem good, but I haven't run it yet nor have experience with longevity. I've read good things about it though and expect it to be OK while costing a fraction of "brand names".
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2012, 12:04 AM   #75 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East coast of Australia
Posts: 393

Yella Peril - '80 Mercedes 240D sedan
Thanks: 15
Thanked 41 Times in 17 Posts
The reports on Lifan are patchy ...some are good , some not so. I'm interested in diesel for the simple reason that my fuel will be almost free. As an efficiency thing, that's hard to beat .
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2012, 12:23 AM   #76 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
I wanted diesel too but didn't find any that fit my purpose.

Where can I get an efficient 1.3HP diesel?
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2012, 12:44 AM   #77 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East coast of Australia
Posts: 393

Yella Peril - '80 Mercedes 240D sedan
Thanks: 15
Thanked 41 Times in 17 Posts
1.3 hp ? A hard ask , a model aeroplane shop ? But it won't last long .You can find Chinese 4hp ones ,quite light for a diesel too .
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2012, 01:15 AM   #78 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
I thought of the r/c stuff but it's weird, some of it doesn't even have piston rings... not made for durability as you noted. The Chinese 4 hp is still too big, unless it delivers the same good bsfc when outputting less than 1 hp. Seems everything needs to be loaded to at least 50% of rated continuous output to get in the good efficiency zone. Some of the dinky 4 stroke gas weed trimmer engines might be in the right hp zone but then the diesel cycle is gone.
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2012, 04:54 AM   #79 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East coast of Australia
Posts: 393

Yella Peril - '80 Mercedes 240D sedan
Thanks: 15
Thanked 41 Times in 17 Posts
Yep, 4 hp is the smallest I can think of ...that would be at 3000rpm so you could probably get an efficient 2 hp but less than that I don't think so.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2012, 08:42 PM   #80 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,767

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 24.19 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - CBR600 - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - Dodge/Cummins - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2
90 day: 17.14 mpg (US)

Model Y - '24 Tesla Y LR AWD

Pacifica Hybrid - '21 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
90 day: 57.45 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,320
Thanked 4,474 Times in 3,439 Posts
Speaking of diesel motorcycles, why is only available to the Marine Corps?

It's a 100mpg dual sport KLR.

__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com