Go Back   EcoModder Forum > Introductions
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-24-2015, 05:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,212

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.8 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 73.57 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,973
Thanked 5,833 Times in 3,026 Posts
Belated welcome to the forum! Congrats on the Fit - I bet it's fun to drive.

Also, a well-driven manual should spank even the higher rated CVT in city/combined driving.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jetto-setto View Post
I'm not good at efficient city driving, nor do I even enjoy it. Most of my eco-driving is on long highway trips.
Need more info there!

I find city eco-driving/hypermiling way more interesting because you can dramatically improve your fuel economy while keeping the same average speed as an inefficient driving style.

And it's far more engaging.

Out on the highway, the major fuel saving technique for most drivers is speed reduction. (Or drafting, but I won't do that for many reasons.)

__________________
Latest mods test: 15 mods = 15% MPG improvement: A-B test, 2007 Honda Civic 1.8L, 5-speed
Ecodriving test:
Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown: Nissan Micra 1.6L



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 04-24-2015, 09:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
jetto-setto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: California
Posts: 14

Fit - '15 Honda Fit EX
90 day: 35.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
Belated welcome to the forum! Congrats on the Fit - I bet it's fun to drive.

Also, a well-driven manual should spank even the higher rated CVT in city/combined driving.



Need more info there!

I find city eco-driving/hypermiling way more interesting because you can dramatically improve your fuel economy while keeping the same average speed as an inefficient driving style.

And it's far more engaging.

Out on the highway, the major fuel saving technique for most drivers is speed reduction. (Or drafting, but I won't do that for many reasons.)


Admittedly I'm pretty new to fuel-efficient driving so my lack of enjoyment trying to improve my fuel economy in the city may be the result of just not knowing how to go about it. Generally I accelerate quickly to my cruising speed and then cruise in the highest gear possible for the situation. That said, the best I can get in this car (rated 29mpg city) is probably 32 - avoiding all drive-thrus of course.
Before the oil change, I wasn't getting more than 29.

You're right about the highway. It's generally boring, but then again I don't try to have real fun on the highway anyway - cruising along at 80mph isn't really any more fun than cruising at 70-75. I just adjust my speed to try to keep it in the 45mpg range on the little fuel efficiency indicator in the car and figure that's probably the best I can do without doing anything dumb like drafting or turning the car off.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2015, 10:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,212

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.8 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 73.57 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,973
Thanked 5,833 Times in 3,026 Posts
How accurate is your dashboard MPG display? Have you compared it against full fill-ups?
__________________
Latest mods test: 15 mods = 15% MPG improvement: A-B test, 2007 Honda Civic 1.8L, 5-speed
Ecodriving test:
Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown: Nissan Micra 1.6L



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2015, 11:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
jetto-setto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: California
Posts: 14

Fit - '15 Honda Fit EX
90 day: 35.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
How accurate is your dashboard MPG display? Have you compared it against full fill-ups?
It's never any more than 1.5 mpg off, and it's always optimistic compared to what I actually get at the pump. So if it says I got 40mpg for a tank, the worst case scenario is that I got 38.5mpg.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2015, 11:26 PM   #15 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,212

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.8 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 73.57 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,973
Thanked 5,833 Times in 3,026 Posts
That's pretty respectable, at around a 4% max error based on your current 90 day average.

The last couple of cars with factory gauges I've checked (Mitsu Mirage, Nissan Micra) have also been in the 4% range. Maybe the manufacturers are getting away from the stereotypical lie-o-meter approach.
__________________
Latest mods test: 15 mods = 15% MPG improvement: A-B test, 2007 Honda Civic 1.8L, 5-speed
Ecodriving test:
Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown: Nissan Micra 1.6L



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2015, 11:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
mikeyjd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 837

Matchbox - '93 Ford Festiva L
Team Ford
Last 3: 70.16 mpg (US)

Salamander - '99 Chrysler Concorde LXI
Team Dodge
90 day: 30.3 mpg (US)

Urquhart - '97 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 V6 3.4L DLX
Pickups
90 day: 25.81 mpg (US)

Smudge - '98 Toyota Tacoma
90 day: 40.65 mpg (US)

Calebro - '15 Renault Trafic 1.25 dci
90 day: 39.39 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,376
Thanked 209 Times in 155 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jetto-setto View Post
The Insight is a nice car! I wish we got the Fit Hybrids over here because I would've been very tempted to go for that.

The Honda Ultra Green oil will probably actually be called "0W-16" eventually. I'm using Honda Ultra Next, which similarly has no SAE grade for the time being, but should fall in line with the new 0W-8 classification. I don't know if there are plans to have lower 'W' numbers but it's possible!

I had a virgin oil analysis done on the Ultra Next, and it is incredibly thin and has a lot of moly for friction reduction. l'll have an analysis done on the used oil when I get back from a 4k mile road trip next month to see how it held up. If for any reason the 0W-8 seems to provide inadequate protection I'd probably switch to the same 0W-16 Green oil you use.
sub'd for oil inspection results
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2015, 12:19 AM   #17 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
jetto-setto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: California
Posts: 14

Fit - '15 Honda Fit EX
90 day: 35.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyjd View Post
sub'd for oil inspection results
To tide you over, here are the virgin oil analysis results

  Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2015, 08:45 PM   #18 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
jetto-setto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: California
Posts: 14

Fit - '15 Honda Fit EX
90 day: 35.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Here's the UOA. Sample taken with 5,802 mi on the oil with Blackstone's sample pump (works great). MM reading 50% oil life remaining. I plan on running some 0W-20 Sustina I have left for the next OCI after putting at least a couple thousand more miles on this stuff. Then I'll likely return to it after running the Sustina.

  Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2015, 11:06 PM   #19 (permalink)
Growin a stash
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Austin TX
Posts: 536
Thanks: 292
Thanked 187 Times in 140 Posts
Wow, that iron level is shockingly low. Mine was at 32 after 6500 miles (first oil change on the Cruze). Maybe that's explained by the fact that I have an iron block but yours is AL? But then I would expect to see more AL in your sample, and there isn't much more. Is this a full synthetic oil?

I'm curious. Does anybody else have other ideas? Maybe Chevys come a little tighter from the factory.

__________________


2015 Nissan Leaf S, 164 mpge
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2015, 11:18 PM   #20 (permalink)
Growin a stash
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Austin TX
Posts: 536
Thanks: 292
Thanked 187 Times in 140 Posts
Wait, I see now that this wasn't your first oil change. That probably explains it...

__________________


2015 Nissan Leaf S, 164 mpge
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com