New Coronavirus - COVID-19

[Xist]

Universities are all on-line now. I think that is progress; I earn better grades when I do not have classmates to distract me, but I would still rather work with my classmates, network and stuff.

Grad school should be completely different, though. Everyone there is supposedly working hard to earn As.

I see automation to get a boost, too, since robots shouldn't get sick or get anyone sick.

Kevin says that we need paid sick leave so that people do not work while sick and get other people sick.

He said that we shouldn't have another recession like 2008 because we don't have the toxic debt that was common then.

He said that we should not be charged interest for 60 to 90 days to help us make ends meet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXOD...em-uploademail

Based on C.D.C. data:

Between 160 million and 214 million people in the United States could be infected over the course of the epidemic

2.4 million to 21 million people in the United States could require hospitalization, potentially crushing the nation’s medical system, which has only about 925,000 staffed hospital beds.

200,000 to 1.7 million people could die.

Mom keeps saying that Germany developed a test and is sharing it, but the U.S. insists on making our own.

So, what have they been using?

I cannot find any sources about this, so I do not have any idea how true it is. People have been tested, so...

“The woman who I talked to said, ‘There aren’t any cases here [in Travis County],’” she told us. “And I said, ‘There hasn’t been any testing, so how do you know?’”

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...umbers/607714/

Fourteen districts in Arizona are closed, (out of more than two hundred) despite the Superintendent of Public Instruction keeps saying there is not any reason to close schools yet.

I enjoy my jobs and want to work, but I do not want to get sick, nor do I want any kids getting sick, but how the heck am I supposed to pay my bills?!

No, I do not have an emergency fund. I have been trying to get more work so I could start one.


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

That site also says that so far there has only been a 7% mortality rate on closed cases.

According to this, coronavirus causes COVID-19.

We also know the World Health Organization had working tests that the United States refused, and researchers at a project in Seattle tried to conduct early tests for the coronavirus but were prevented from doing so by federal officials. (Doctors at the research project eventually decided to perform coronavirus tests without federal approval.)

The Trump administration dismantled the National Security Council’s global-health office, whose purpose was to address global pandemics

[Turnip] claimed that a vaccine would be available in months; [Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases] says [a vaccine] will not be available for a year or more.

Trump admitted that his preference was to keep a cruise ship off the California coast rather than allowing it to dock, because he wanted to keep the number of reported cases of the coronavirus artificially low.

Even severe flu seasons stress the nation’s hospitals to the point of setting up tents in parking lots and keeping people for days in emergency rooms. Coronavirus is likely to cause five to 10 times that burden of disease, said Dr. James Lawler, an infectious diseases specialist and public health expert at the University of Nebraska Medical Center. Hospitals “need to start working now,” he said, “to get prepared to take care of a heck of a lot of people.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/u...-estimate.html

In October [1918] Dr. Rupert Blue, America’s surgeon general, urged local authorities to “close all public gathering places if their community is threatened with the epidemic,” such as schools, churches, and theaters. “There is no way to put a nationwide closing order into effect,” he wrote, “as this is a matter which is up to the individual communities.”

The mayor of St. Louis quickly took that advice, closing for several weeks “theaters, moving picture shows, schools, pool and billiard halls, Sunday schools, cabarets, lodges, societies, public funerals, open air meetings, dance halls and conventions until further notice.” The death rate rose, but stayed relatively flat over that autumn.

Close all "Gentlemen's clubs!"

By contrast, Philadelphia took none of those measures; the epidemic there had started before Dr. Blue’s warning. Its death rate skyrocketed.

[Xist]

I watched as much of the Colbert Show last night, including the part with the good doctor.

I do not know if this was the first rehearsal and normally there are a few more, with audience feedback to let Stephen know when he wasn't being funny, or what.

I hated it.

[freebeard]

Mom keeps saying that Germany developed a test and is sharing it, but the U.S. insists on making our own.

So, what have they been using?

I cannot find any sources about this, so I do not have any idea how true it is. People have been tested, so...

duckduckgo.com/?q=CT+scan+coronavirus

Herein a selection of articles on the utility of CT scans as a diagnostic tool. it's a tool, not an expendable, in widespread use already.

Testing everyone may not be helpful, everyone presenting symptoms could/should be. Pre-symptomatic spread may be happening so randomized test are prolly a good idea.

Your Atlantic hit-piece:

What I explained then, and what I have said many times since, is that Trump is fundamentally unfit—intellectually, morally, temperamentally, and psychologically—for office. For me, that is the paramount consideration in electing a president, in part because at some point it’s reasonable to expect that a president will face an unexpected crisis—and at that point, the president’s judgment and discernment, his character and leadership ability, will really matter.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/DzuQTm.jpg


A counterexample would be linked in Permalink #53 above. He sounds serious and tired. I should go back, I'd skipped on the panel of experts.

Take a look at the alternative, and consider the utility of extending the highly compromised first term to eight years. A lot of blood sweat and tears will go into that result anyway, otherwise.

Their already talking about the Primaries.

[redpoint5]

My sitter self-quarantined because her dad returned home from a motorcycle trip in CA. I don't know what any of that has to do with minimizing risk. I indulge her since she's been great.

My wife submitted her first Corona virus test to a lab today. If anyone is at high risk, it would be providers, especially the old ones.

I could name 20 things causing more stress in my life right now than Corona. If people have Corona virus, or global warming at a higher level than 20 on their list, they are blessed, not that I'm particularly afflicted.

[freebeard]

You'll be fine, I am sure. But the world will have changed around you from what came before.

[Xist]

I went to Safeway at eight and people had entire carts of toilet paper. I went to Ace and some guy walked out with toilet paper. If I am up early I will try to find some, just to appease The Ancient One.

They are showing repeats of The Colbert Show indefinitely. He pointed out that the president's name was an anagram of Land Turd Mop or something.

[RedDevil]

Breaking...
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/c...ibodies_found/

Erasmus and Utrecht University have announced a discovery of antibodies that could help find and fight Coronavirus infections. The research is currently being peer-reviewed with human testing still months away. Started as a hobbyproject of a professor who dove into the SARS and MERS outbreaks and applied findings in those cases to the current outbreak. Pharmaceutical companies are being contacted to get on board with production of the antibodies. Disclaimer: I am not a biologist and this is the best quick summary of the article in Dutch I could make.

Basically he had several experimental test sets prepared for SARS and MERS testing shelved in the fridge, and decided to test them out on the new corona virus - and one of them was a match.

This will enable quicker and more reliable tests in the future and a possible cure; and that well within the time needed to make a vaccine (which this isn't).

[RedDevil]

This morning the radio news was that there were only 11 new cases of Corona in China yesterday - all foreigners - and of the ~80,000 Chinese people who have been infected only 15,000 remain ill today. But I haven't found a weblink yet.

Other nations in the region seem to regain control as well: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/o...-response.html

China identified Patient Zero, it seems. It took over a month before anyone realized what was going on: https://nypost.com/2020/03/13/corona...-patient-zero/

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

You'll be fine, I am sure. But the world will have changed around you from what came before.

I wouldn't mind if we started bowing to each other rather than shaking hands. I've often thought a perfect society would be a mixture between Japan's value of family and groups, and the US value for the individual. Somehow recognizing that the individual is the smallest minority group, yet not being narcissistic about it.

I'm sure we'll trade freedom for the illusion of safety though, we always do. Terrorists are still terrorizing us two decades later every time we get patted down at the airport, scanned by a machine that shows you naked, and walk around with no shoes or belts on. Of course, I lost the feeling of shame long ago, but I still don't like paying for all that, or wasting the time.

Maybe we'll trade sporting events for VR. This could be the beginning of the shift away from going out and experiencing things, to staying in and experiencing things. Then there'd be a corresponding drop in population growth since people would trade physical interaction with virtual. That would take global warming off the table of our pre-occupation. Instead we'll protest that the 1% own 80% of virtual reality, and that they should pay their fair share of mana and gems.

Telecommuting should have caught on long ago, and online colleges should already be top notch.

Stores should increase the price of toilet paper to $40.

Anyhow, I'm still not interested enough to turn on the news. Wake me up when we've lost more people than the seasonal flu.

[Fat Charlie]

Originally Posted by Xist

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

That site also says that so far there has only been a 7% mortality rate on closed cases.

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Anyhow, I'm still not interested enough to turn on the news. Wake me up when we've lost more people than the seasonal flu.

The CDC estimates that last winter, the flu had about a 0.1% mortality rate in the US, with a 7% mortality rate among cases bad enough to require hospitalization. And we have major programs researching it and developing vaccines every year. And they have to have commercials promoting the flu shot because most people don't bother to get it.

Coronavurus seems to have 7% mortality right out the door. We don't even have test kits in this country*, much less a vaccine, and the only way we can even slow its spread seems to be by burning everything down. It's already far worse than the flu even if the body count hasn't caught up yet.

* If people showing symptoms can't get tested, we don't have tests. 330,000,000 people have shut down their society- no travel, no sports, no schools, no toilet paper. My wife is setting up our church to stream tomorrow's service. But a report from yesterday says we've tested 15,000 people.

The president said we'll have a vaccine in a few months, though. Maybe it's going to be made up of those "thoughts and prayers" that they claim are the most effective thing to use against mass shootings.