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Old 07-22-2010, 07:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ev that doesn't need to be plugged in.. Works in theory

I'm currently working on a way that an electric vehicle will never have to be plugged in. The vehicle will have 2 systems and 2 electric motors (one being smaller than the other). I have been told that this cannot work but no one has bothered to listen. There would be the drive motor turning the rear wheels and in the front would be multiple high output alternators , battery bank (for the drive system) and 2 regular car batteries that would power the smaller electric motor that would power everything in the cab of the truck i.e., stereo, speakers, lights, dash, headlights and tail lights etc etc. I look forward to your input

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Old 07-22-2010, 08:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So you're saying the alternators in the front will generate electricity to power the motors in the rear? That won't work because of losses in the system. You are trying to invent a perpetual motion machine. No one has succeeded yet, and you won't either unless you have found a way around the laws of physics.

Or do I not understand your proposed system?
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I think the alternators are going to be powered by a 500hp V8. Should all be good!
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Not regular alternators... High output alternators.. They would range anywhere from 180 amps to 350 amps or if I can find the parts I can put a generator together. I'm talking about 2 separate systems... In theory it should work.
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As long as you are able to produce & store more power than it is needed to make the vehicle move, it should work. I haven't done the math, but I doubt those high output amp will be able to pump enough juice to move the vehicle forever. Do you do some math, and did you include any loss (drag, friction) in them ?
Maybe using a load of solar panels with those HO alt. would give enough power to move on the flat, but what about hills ?

I don't know. Seems to good to be true.
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Neil I'm not talking about perpetual motion. I'm talking about having an onboard power generation unit persay. That's all an alternator is... A generator. And I'm talking about using more than one. One would go to poweringthe two car batteries that would power all of the accessories and while the electric motor in the engine compartment is turning it will also operate the power steering, air pump and air conditioning as well as the high output alternators.
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That I don't know yet... I just had the idea a few days ago and haven't had the chance to build a small scale model i.e. A two seater go cart..
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I can get them to pump out enough juice... That's not a problem.. Solar panels... Nah... Maybe a photovoltaic film on the exterior parts that get the most sun
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Seems to good to be true... Maybe but not impossible... Nothing is impossible only improbable. I have the solution but now I only need to apply it to the problem and find a way for the two to fit

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