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Old 05-19-2018, 09:25 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Few interesting things happened while this thread has been sleeping:

-- Nikola motors sued Tesla because of their truck (see here: https://www.engadget.com/2018/05/02/...s-suing-tesla/)
in what looks like patent trolling
Yeah, sounds like trolling. A lot of what they're suing Tesla over seems like it's applicable to the Airflow Starship too...

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Old 05-20-2018, 01:32 AM   #92 (permalink)
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http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...6-a-34662.html

At a quick glance first post was 03-29-2015, 09:34 AM
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Building it now. Shakedown testing in the 2nd. quarter of of 2016. Regional testing 3rd. quarter 2016. Coast-to-coast record runs 4th. quarter 2016 or first quarter 2017.

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- according to this page https://electrek.co/2018/05/02/tesla...motors-design/ Nikola Motors filed patents on 30th of December 2015. At this point it had to be rough sketches, as five months lated they posted some CGI with lot of marketting babble. Damned patent trolling.
Lets hope shepherd777 has some design documentanion somewehre.
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Nikola Corporation has a total of six patents. They are all design patents, which are different from utility patents. Design patents consist only of one or more drawings, and they cover only things that look like those drawings.

The United States patent system, like the rest of the world, is on "first to file". Whoever files the first patent application for an invention gets the patent. If Shepherd777 publicly disclosed anything in a Nikola patent before the Nikola patent filing date, then that Nikola patent is not valid.

You can read the Nikola patents by going to patft.uspto.gov, click on Advanced Search under patents, then use search criteria an/nikola.
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It's dead!

Well, not yet. But after the allegations of the Hindenburg report, the investigations by the SEC and DOJ rolling in and CEO Trevor Milton sudden resignation the writing is on the wall.

The Nikola One never was alive. Though it was filmed while driving through a desert-like area, Hindenburg Research revealed it had actually just been rolling down a slope after getting towed there. And that was just one of over 50 acts of deceit.
With so much gone wrong it gets really hard to believe the company is worth its market cap, or anything at all for that matter.

But now Stephen Girsky, a former GM vice president, takes over control.
To GM Nikola can be useful, if only because it can sell GM-built EV trucks with a Nikola badge and be eligible for the $7,500 tax rebate that GM already used up themselves with the Volt and Bolt.

So Nikola is here to stay.
That is, Nikola badges to be affixed to GM-built trucks will stay.

And that truck is named the Badger. Go figure...



The Badger in better days as Nikola vehemently tests this stunning computer rendering in harsh conditions.
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Though it was filmed while driving through a desert-like area, Hindenburg Research revealed it had actually just been rolling down a slope after getting towed there.
Did they speed the film up?

Badger is a cool name under the circumstances.
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It is a mild grade but a very long stretch. A semi will pick up decent speed, even if it only runs on fairy dust.

If you thought Nikola's founder Trevor Milton was just a victim of circumstances, take a dive down the Badger's hole:

That's a serious fruitcake.
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Why buy a new brand name so you can get EV credits vs just make up a new one? Just keep making new GM lines or even bring back old ones like Oldsmobile and Pontiac. That makes me wonder. Will they get new credits for the GMC vs Chevrolet? Would Ram get separate credits from Chrysler and Dodge? If each sub-brand gets their own credits then Tesla needs to start making a different brand for the Cybertruck. Like say the Alset Cybertruck.

Edit: I guess it goes by automaker, but that doesn't totally make sense as VW is listed separately from Audi and Porsche.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/...ax-credit-work
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Edit: I guess it goes by automaker, but that doesn't totally make sense as VW is listed separately from Audi and Porsche.
I can only assume it depends on the particulars of how these brands are owned, and that if it was easy to spin off a new brand to get credits, it would be commonplace.

This underlines the main failure of the credit, that it should have been a single pot of money available for the first x number of vehicles sold regardless of brand.

Of course, there should never have been a tax credit because this is an expensive and foolish way to reduce fossil fuel consumption.
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