Oil Changes: your .02 ?

[fjasper]

Send a sample off to these guys: Blackstone Labs in the free bottle they send you, and they'll figure out how long your oil is lasting, acidity, metals, dirt, viscosity, flashpoint, fuel, antifreeze, etc. On their advice I've stretched my oil changes from 4,000 miles out to 7,500 miles on the allroad, which takes over 7 quarts of synthetic per change. The savings in oil money more than paid for the analysis, and I can tell myself I'm not hurting the (very expensive) turbos.

[capnbass91]

I just went to Autozone to get some oil, and they had a large banner over the shelves they have the oil that something along the line of change your engine oil every 3000 or 3 months, whichever comes first. lol

[Frank Lee]

They also have "Tornados" on the shelf, and a "K&N" demonstration device on the counter. So that's the quality of advice they give out.

[euromodder]

In Europe, we get 12,500 and 19,000 mile service / oil intervals on modern cars, say 2000 and later.

3,000 mile oil changes are so 1980s.

[puddleglum]

Kia Canada demands that oil be changed every 4 months or 5000miles whichever comes first to maintain warranty. Considering how little I drive my car, I've pushed it to six months, but I may look into oil sampling. It's probably no cheaper than changing oil, but I'd have the benefit of knowing if there were signs of wear in the engine and have some data to back up a longer service interval. I've only put on 3000 miles in the last 11 months so 4 month changes are overkill.

[Ford Man]

I never use the length of time for oil changes only mileage. My '97 Escort only has 32K miles and in 14 years I've changed the oil (conventional) 10 times since it was new. I do 3K mile changes on it simply because it isn't used a lot.

[JeepNmpg2]

6 quarts of Mobil 1 and a Mopar filter from Walmart - $35

Not too terrible really, but I would be interested in knowing how my oil is doing at 4k miles and if it really needs to be changed or not. Does anybody know if there is a cheap pH test you can do on your oil? Mine is always black when it's oilchange time, but that doesn't really mean it's used up.

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by puddleglum

Kia Canada demands that oil be changed every 4 months or 5000miles whichever comes first to maintain warranty.

That's downright ridiculous.
The service interval in Belgium is at least twice the distance, and 3 times as many months !

They could halve the environmental impact of their servicing in a heartbeat !

They'll be able to read French I guess , here's the Belgian maintenance schedule.
Your Rondo would be a Rio here by the looks of it.

Intervalles d'entretien | Kia Motors Belgium

And yes, we do get the 7 year / 150,000 km warranty as well.

[Joenavy85]

Owning a car takes a lot more than forking over some cash and driving it off the lot. Over a car's lifetime, drivers can end up spending thousands of dollars for insurance, gas and maintenance costs, including the regular oil change. But should you really be changing it every three months or 3,000 miles? Plus, Lynn in Colorado wants to know how to dispute an item on a credit report.

I own a 1997 Camry with 54,000 miles on it. I have been changing the oil every 3 months or 3,000 miles. Now I drive less, about 3,000 miles in 5 or 6 months. Should I still change the oil at three months or wait till I reach 3,000 miles? Also, since I bought the car I have been using Valvoline oil. Is it OK to change to another brand?

I remember getting my first car (a hand-me-down) and how my father kept telling me how important it was to change the oil every 3,000 miles. A lot has changed since then. Today’s oil is much better and it can last a lot longer.

Here’s what to do: Check your owner’s manual and follow the manufacturer’s recommendation. If it says change the oil every three months or 3,000 miles and you haven’t traveled 3,000 miles in that time, change it anyway. But, I think you’ll find that the recommendations are much longer than that. For instance, Acura suggests that I change the oil in my car every 7,500 miles or one year.

Tom and Ray, the hosts of Car Talk on National Public Radio, recommend an oil change every 5,000 miles, although they admit knowing when to change the oil is not an exact science. “It may be too soon for many people and too late for a few,” they say, “but for the vast majority, 5,000-mile oil changes will help your engine last to a ripe, old age.”

Here are a few reminders:

You should always change the filter when you change the oil. You don’t want to contaminate the new oil with the gunk that’s in the old filter.
Check the oil level every few hundred miles. “If you add oil, don’t overfill,” cautions Phil Reed, Consumer Advice Editor forEdmunds, “because that can cause serious engine problems.”
And it’s not a problem If you want to switch from one brand of oil to another, says John Ibbotson, an automotive expert at Consumer Reports. “Just make sure to stick with the manufacturer’s recommendations for engine oil weight,” Ibbotson says. You should also use a product with the API Certification Seal for gasoline engines, which means the oil meets the American Petroleum Institute’s latest requirements and that it is energy conserving.

Taken from: How often should I change motor oil? - Business - Consumer news - ConsumerMan - msnbc.com

I disagree with the filter changing comment of "You don’t want to contaminate the new oil with the gunk that’s in the old filter.". If the filter caught it before, why would it all of a sudden release it?

As far as the comment "If you add oil, don’t overfill" I do agree with that. On US Navy ships if you fill the main reduction gear sump too high the Bull Gear (the largest gear, attached to the propeller shaft) will contact the oil and cause "churning" which causes aeration of the oil which can lead to fluctuations in oil pressure to the bearings; all of which I myself have seen. I would imagine something similar would/could happen due to the crankshaft striking oil in the pan.

[Fat Charlie]

Originally Posted by Joenavy85

"If you add oil, don’t overfill" I do agree with that.

We had a guy once who kept spitting oil out past his head gaskets. Eventually someone checked his dipstick: he had one, but it was from another vehicle. It was too short and the engine was way overfilled. They got him the right dipstick and never had to replace another head gasket.