Open discussion on using TC-W3 oil as an additive

[WesternStarSCR]

APEXi - V-AFC II - Nengun Performance

@mcrews:
Seems to allow control over a Honda / Acura VTEC system (engagement points, fuel, etc).

[mcrews]

I figured something like that......

[WesternStarSCR]

It would be nice when all cars have ability to just set a couple of parameters on the dash and gain EITHER 25 more horsepower OR 25% more MPG. Like a video game. Depending on if you are commuting to work or outrunning the law, you have options...

[mcrews]

I had done some research on various 'mapping' programs for the 02 Q45 and discovered that it was "narrow band' and couldnt be remapped.
(a little foggy on the exact details....it was several yrs ago)

[RH77]

Originally Posted by Ardent

As a test subject, she and her car are near ideal as far as I can determine. ... I believe that the mileage increase is because of the octane reduction caused by adding oil to gasoline. An engine with safe/conservative ignition timing then benefits from the timing "advance" caused by the added oil. I expect that I could see the same mileage increase by more optimally dialing in the timing.

What kind of drivetrain is in your Wife's car -- does it require premium fuel (also the truck, is it a pushrod vs. OHC)? My testing is currently in a vehicle with full mechanical advance (distrubutor), warm/hot intake temps, and increased Winter coolant temps. I found that this combo requires premium fuel to prevent detonation year 'round (although it's not needed for this engine in stock form). I'm halfway into a tank and haven't noticed any pinging (including high loads -- didn't before either) -- I'll have to try high-RPM as well. My planned, "blinded" test vehicle (TSX) has been proven to need premium, as recommended. Lower octane fuels decrease FE and increase detonation across the board (loads, RPM, etc.) -- especially while under the i-VTEC's performance (high-RPM) valve lift/duration (rarely used).

So, I'm hoping the the 91-Octane fuel doesn't get reduced down to 87 as I'm pumping it into the tank along with the "blue-stuff". More investigation may be required if I try it in the "complicated engine".

Originally Posted by nbleak21

I noticed very similar results in my Acura (2-3mpg gain on longer trips) prior to my VAFC install. I also noted similar gains using ethanol free gas (still 87octane) after my VAFC install...

Same question for you -- is it recommended that the CL use 91-Octane?

Just a hypothesis: maybe compression has something to do with it.

Only note of possible improvement -- I wish I could quantify "crank" time before the engine fires. It seems to be quicker to start now, but I have no way to communiate that legitimately.

RH77

[Ardent]

Originally Posted by RH77

What kind of drivetrain is in your Wife's car -- does it require premium fuel (also the truck, is it a pushrod vs. OHC)? . . .

RH77

Neither vehicle requires premium fuel. The car is DOHC with distributor based ignition, while the pickup is a pushrod engine with COP ignition.

[Prophecy99]

thanks for posting this Mcrews ! glad there is generally a nice response to this additive. Once I recognized it catching on with the maxima guys I knew it was no joke.

I am buying my first bottle at walmart and according to what I have read that is the most cost effective brand you can get.



I can't wait to try it out.

Heres a quote from a maxima member that started it for a few months ago.

Originally Posted by deezo

After all of this research and trial, I'd say these cars were designed for 2 Stroke Marine oil as an additive. My car has never ran so good.

[Duffman]

Its even more cost effective if you buy it in the gal size container.

[mcrews]

I'm looking to find some little 3 oz plastic bottles to fill.
any ideas where to get some cheap??

[Beau]

Not me; I just use a Pirex measuring vile each time.