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Old 01-09-2014, 01:09 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Yes, corporations are soulless, and don't care about anything but making profits. But guess what? They don't make profits unless you choose to buy the stuff they make.

 
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Getting those investors to accept lower returns or marginal returns from more eco-friendly investments in exchange for securing the future of the great-grandchildren they refuse to have? Good luck.
Yah, because an all-powerful, totalitarian government would do SO much better at protecting the environment than them evil, greedy capitalists that people here are so quick to vilify.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:40 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I take it from the responses the eco thing most practice is just for their own benefit and not the environment?

There is a reason air pumps were installed and removed from vehicles, the solution to pollution is not dilution. The benefits are very short term and short lived.

Im just glad my real location is on the east coast, mid atlantic and inland.
 
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Yah, because an all-powerful, totalitarian government would do SO much better at protecting the environment than them evil, greedy capitalists that people here are so quick to vilify.
Never said any different. Rule of thumb for large organizations... lowest common denominator behaviour...

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No, that is only part of the "problem". People are greedy about reproduction, hence the population problem. Great, you had kids, why is that anyone elses problem, oh yah, cuz there are limited resources.
Funny thing... there are some studies that suggest humans, like rats, reproduce more in crowded, resource poor conditions.

Which basically means we're doomed. Not unless we find a way to edumacate all those people...
 
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Funny thing... there are some studies that suggest humans, like rats, reproduce more in crowded, resource poor conditions.

Which basically means we're doomed. Not unless we find a way to edumacate all those people...
No argument, and to look at the other side of the coin, we see income inequality as "those greedy rich people" while the ranks of the poor have been swelling reproductively, at a rate double everyone else at the lowest end.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/2...ome-in-the-us/

in the us there are way more households making less than $10k/year (mostly white FWIW) so I would say, yah it stands to reason at the 50,000 foot level.
http://www.census.gov/compendia/stat...es/12s0705.pdf

poor people, in the us anyway do breed a lot faster, and now there are a lot more of them, skewing the stats about wealth inequality. Now the pope wants a war on poverty after telling everyone that they will go to hell if they use contraceptives?!?

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My personal response to it all is to find the things I can do to insulate myself somewhat from the mess ahead. I try to improve my diet and avoid stress....take whatever defensive measures possible. Find relatively positive things to do. Avoid politics...it's a mess and a sickness.

Those that will suffer the most are the youngest...who by the time they are old enough to be able to do something about things...will have been indoctrinated and abused to a point of no return.

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It is hard to give birth to a 50 yr old.
 
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Fallout from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster from two and a half years ago continues to silently impact health and safety around the world. After explosions in four of the six reactors, three melted down into the ground, and there is no way to simply plug the dam.

The effects of this unprecedented disaster continue to play out in slow motion. But of course, what isn't seen remains little talked about in the media or among the public.

Recent accounts reveal that Japanese officials continue to refuse to publicly acknowledge the extent of the problem and are actively covering up the truth to hold together the appearance that everything is normal, and that all is well.

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Meanwhile, a nuclear expert spotlighted the volume of radioactive materials - on the order of 300 tons of water per day - that continues to flow out from the melted down reactor cores at the power plant into the Pacific Ocean day in and day out, with no hope of slowing down, continually increasing global exposure since 2011.

The president and co-founder of the Canadian Coalition for Nuclear Responsibility, Gordon Edwards, discussed the extent of the continued contamination during a radio interview with The Green Majority on 89.5 FM in Toronto on December 6, 2013. Edwards holds a Ph.D. in mathematics and has served as a nuclear consultant and testified as a nuclear expert in Canadian courts.

Shockingly, Edwards stated, "There are about 300 tons of contaminated water every day going into the Pacific Ocean underground. That's because the cores of the reactors have melted into the ground, and now the groundwater is flowing underneath the reactors and it's washing that radioactive material out into the Pacific Ocean at the rate of 300 tons per day."

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The real question to me is how much radiation is being accumulated in Pacific ocean fish? Radiation and other pollutants tend to concentrate more in animal flesh vs plants. Same for land animals. When humans consume meat...the pollutants are even more concentrated.

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