The Pacific Ocean is being trashed....

[P-hack]

300 tonnes is like 75 hippos, the oceans can hold 375000000000000000 hippos.

[suspectnumber961]

Originally Posted by P-hack

It is hard to give birth to a 50 yr old.

The point being that conditions will likely be worse over time. The avg 50 yr old has maybe 35 yrs left....I have less. Pollutants affect younger people more since they are at a growing stage. After 50 it's all downhill... Problem is that younger people will probably have 2 heads before I die...might confuse me a bit in the nursing home.

[suspectnumber961]

Originally Posted by P-hack

300 tonnes is like 75 hippos, the oceans can hold 375000000000000000 hippos.

The solution is dilution...except that radiation is reconcentrated in fish?

[P-hack]

"Fukushima is, in this disaster, pumping out around one quarter of the radiation that a coal plant does in normal operation"

The Fukushima Radiation Leak Is Equal To 76 Million Bananas - Forbes

[P-hack]

what are you calling BS on, and why?

Burning away all the carbon in coal concentrates the radiation:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-nuclear-waste

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by suspectnumber961

Recent accounts reveal that Japanese officials continue to refuse to publicly acknowledge the extent of the problem and are actively covering up the truth to hold together the appearance that everything is normal, and that all is well.

In other words, if they don't buy into your hysterical "Omigawd, it's radioactive! We're all gonna DIE!!!" conspiracies, they're automatically lying? Catch-22, I think.

Suppose we try an alternative hypothesis: that in fact it's the various anti-nuclear groups who are lying, either because they have political agendas, they're ignorant of science and so have innocently bought into the hysteria themselves, or - dare I say it? - because they don't have what it takes to do something productive, and have chosen this way to bolster their egos.

Now suppose we try to collect actual data to support or refute the hypothesis. We might, for instance, compare their post-Chernobyl distaster predictions with the reality of a nature preserve that is, by most measures, one of the ecologically healthiest places in Europe.

[Giovanni LiCalsi]

There is no need for coal or nuclear power plants.
Geothermal, hydro, wind and solar can do it all, even in Japan.

[RedDevil]

Scientists have discovered recently that the Great White sharks can get much older than was thought previously.
It is quite hard to estimate the age of a shark as sharks have no bone, just cartilege.
Even so, in the vertebras there are some very indistinct 'year rings' that vary in density every season. Counting those the max age was determined to be at least 32 years.

Until they checked the rings for carbon isotopes.
The atomic bomb tests in the Pacific in the 50's and 60's of the previous century have left tell-tale deposits of heavy isotopes in the 'juvenile' rings of old male sharks, so now the scientists know that male Whites can reach an age of at least 73 years.

Of course, sharks are on top of the oceans food chain and may accumulate an aggravated amount of nuclear deposits because of that. Nevertheless it shows that these tests did have an impact on sea life, and while I doubt the phenomena described (*) are caused by the Fukusima accident, I cannot dismiss it as having no effect at all.

(*) Like the disected and dissolving sea stars which to me would seem the work of flesh eating bacteria.

[P-hack]

Everything has an effect, even the "remedies", and they usually are not intended.

[Thenorm]

Originally Posted by RedDevil

...while I doubt the phenomena described are caused by the Fukusima accident, I cannot dismiss it as having no effect at all.

I think that's all I want. for people to be open minded and sane when thinking about this. not to jump to panicked conclusions.