Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > EcoModding Central
Register Now
 Register Now
 

View Poll Results: Better EcoMod: Civic HX wheels or Smoothies with steelies???
Civic HX Cast Alloy 11.6 pounds 8 80.00%
Oem Toyota 14" steelie with Smoothie cover 2 20.00%
Voters: 10. You may not vote on this poll

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-18-2015, 12:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Posts: 10

93 Corolla - '94 Toyota Corolla DX Wagon
90 day: 39.21 mpg (US)

MOFOGEO - '92 Geo Metro XFi
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Poll: Civic HX wheels or 14" steelies with smoothie covers???

I recently bought a set of ultimate civic vx wheels, but sadly my car cannot fit a 13" rim. So i am back to the 14" debate:

Should i go with 14" Civic HX wheels or stay with the oem 14" steelies and add full moon covers???

The hx wheels weigh in at 11.6 pounds each, not bad, but when i look up these steelies they jabe a shipping weight of 12 pounds, so untimately the HX wheels wont be saving me but a few oz at most, but they are availably localy and easily, not sure if its worth the cost, or if ultimately the aero of a fullmoon cover on steelies would be more beneficial than the coupl of oz saved not using steelies.

Please vote, HX, or steelie???

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 08-18-2015, 01:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
Cyborg ECU
 
California98Civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Coastal Southern California
Posts: 6,299

Black and Green - '98 Honda Civic DX Coupe
Team Honda
90 day: 66.42 mpg (US)

Black and Red - '00 Nashbar Custom built eBike
90 day: 3671.43 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,373
Thanked 2,174 Times in 1,470 Posts
Don't believe the shipping weight you are being quoted. It must be more than 16lbs, I think, and I often see 14" steelies from the 1990s at 20lbs. Plus, the HX weight seems slihtly high. I think the number at wheelweights.net is closer to 11.0 ... the HX wheels are among the lightest 14" wheels ever fielded as OEM.

So ask yourself: is it mostly for freeway steady cruise driving? Then the steelies with covers might still be best. But the more stop and go or pulse and glide you plan to need or choose, the more the HX wheels will help you (much less rotational mass). To figure rotational mass double the wheel weight.
__________________
See my car's mod & maintenance thread and my electric bicycle's thread for ongoing projects. I will rebuild Black and Green over decades as parts die, until it becomes a different car of roughly the same shape and color. My minimum fuel economy goal is 55 mpg while averaging posted speed limits. I generally top 60 mpg. See also my Honda manual transmission specs thread.



  Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to California98Civic For This Useful Post:
mcrews (12-30-2015), MF Baker (08-18-2015), MobilOne (12-28-2015)
Old 08-18-2015, 02:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Posts: 10

93 Corolla - '94 Toyota Corolla DX Wagon
90 day: 39.21 mpg (US)

MOFOGEO - '92 Geo Metro XFi
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
The wheelweights pdf says 11.75 for the hx wheels, i was mistaken and the site i had used said 11.8, not 11.6.

As for the steel wheel, i have a set of yaris steel wheels also, 15", those are listed on wheelweights at #18, ive found others saying only 16 pounds on forums, and the 14" ive found weights from 12 to 24 lol! I habe both so i am going to try and figure out a way to weigh them, but it seems as though the hx may be the way to go, there is a set for sale locally with new tires for 380, but they are 195/60s, which increases my footprint so thats not ideal either, but is slightly smaller diamer than stock size 185/65.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2015, 02:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Posts: 10

93 Corolla - '94 Toyota Corolla DX Wagon
90 day: 39.21 mpg (US)

MOFOGEO - '92 Geo Metro XFi
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
And good point on the driving, i am currently in the bay area so its never consistant highway mpg, but i am about to go on a long road trip and am moving basically, not sure where yet though haha! So still a tough choice.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2015, 04:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Posts: 10

93 Corolla - '94 Toyota Corolla DX Wagon
90 day: 39.21 mpg (US)

MOFOGEO - '92 Geo Metro XFi
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Another option ive just turned up useing the wheel weight guide is a mazda miata semi hollow spoke wheel, 14x6 comes in at 10.9 pounds!!! And i can get a set of them locally.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2015, 04:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
Not banned yet
 
deejaaa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Texas Coast, close to Houston
Posts: 907

Blue - '03 Chevy S-10, LS
Thanks: 423
Thanked 266 Times in 213 Posts
so much to consider with wheels.
initial cost. if you spend 200.00 on a set of wheels, but already have a set that's paid for, figure how long it will take to pay off the new set vs keeping the old.
weight. as stated, weight will matter mostly in stop n go traffic.
ROI. if you get a set of moons, keep in mind they like to fly off when they feel like it, esp the knock-offs. I've lost 2 already. haven't noticed any increase in mpg so I think it was a waste.
if you buy a set of rims, tires and there is no increase in mpg, that will be a waste also.
to me, considering how old my car is, the cheapest way to increase mpg is the way I will go from now on. I don't care about looks either. but, if it doesn't work, it comes off.
__________________
2003 S-10, 2.2L, 5 speed, ext cab long bed.
So far: DRL delete, remove bed mount toolbox.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to deejaaa For This Useful Post:
MF Baker (08-18-2015)
Old 08-18-2015, 09:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Posts: 10

93 Corolla - '94 Toyota Corolla DX Wagon
90 day: 39.21 mpg (US)

MOFOGEO - '92 Geo Metro XFi
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Well, i am going to have to shut this one down, i just want and tried on some HX wheels and those dont fit either!!! Arg, those civics have the smallest brakes ever lol! So just gonna stick with steelies for now, no cool kid wheels for me :/
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2015, 10:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
Cyborg ECU
 
California98Civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Coastal Southern California
Posts: 6,299

Black and Green - '98 Honda Civic DX Coupe
Team Honda
90 day: 66.42 mpg (US)

Black and Red - '00 Nashbar Custom built eBike
90 day: 3671.43 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,373
Thanked 2,174 Times in 1,470 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by MF Baker View Post
Well, i am going to have to shut this one down, i just want and tried on some HX wheels and those dont fit either!!! Arg, those civics have the smallest brakes ever lol! So just gonna stick with steelies for now, no cool kid wheels for me :/
When I was contemplating a wheel change, I researched a bunch of options. In the end I stuck with the 13" VX wheels I bought. But here are the 15" and up sizes that seemed to fit my civic, so perhaps they'll solve your brake caliper troubles...

15" Mini Cooper R81 Imola 7-hole (12.1 lbs)
15" Mini Cooper R86 star-spoke (15 lbs)
15" Mini Cooper R96 7-spoke (13.8 lbs)
15" Enkei Classic J-speed (14.1 lbs)
15" Enkei RP-F1 (9.5 lb)*
15" Kosei K4R (10.7 lb)*
15" Konig Helium (11.2 lb) 40mm offset, hub bore 73.1mm
__________________
See my car's mod & maintenance thread and my electric bicycle's thread for ongoing projects. I will rebuild Black and Green over decades as parts die, until it becomes a different car of roughly the same shape and color. My minimum fuel economy goal is 55 mpg while averaging posted speed limits. I generally top 60 mpg. See also my Honda manual transmission specs thread.



  Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2015, 10:54 PM   #9 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 44
Thanks: 0
Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts
HX wheels for the win.

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to GotToyota For This Useful Post:
AbramWagner (08-19-2015)
Old 08-19-2015, 01:00 AM   #10 (permalink)
Furry Furfag
 
Baltothewolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Apple Valley
Posts: 2,084

Winsight - '00 Honda Insight
90 day: 56.69 mpg (US)

Miaderp - '95 Mazda Miata
90 day: 28.53 mpg (US)
Thanks: 67
Thanked 409 Times in 313 Posts
I love my HX rims with a passion. They look SO NICE when all cleaned up. If I ever sell my insight I will definitely keep the HX rims and buy a set of steelies to put on it.

__________________

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com