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View Poll Results: Should EcoModder ban/discourage threads about certain mods? (e.g. magnets, HHO)
Yes - let's agree to talk about topics based on understood science/engineering principles. 27 32.14%
No - we'll miss out on important new discoveries. 17 20.24%
No - I am entertained by the musings of pseudo-scientists and conspiracy theorists. 39 46.43%
AHA! You are obviously in the pocket of Big Oil FOR EVEN CONSIDERING THIS!!!! 14 16.67%
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:19 AM   #11 (permalink)
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By the way, I'm not voting because surveys like this narrow the options too much...
Hint: voting is multiple choice.

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Old 01-28-2011, 11:22 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm intrigued by the idea of a "crackpot ideas" subforum. Unless there's good evidence the mod works, it's clear to visitors why it's in there.
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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None of the choices match my ideas.
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:27 AM   #14 (permalink)
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There's been a lot of discoveries here
I'd argue that there haven't been any true "discoveries".

The successful demonstrated mods that come to mind are all based on well-understood principles, most of which have been done before, elsewhere. (The majority have been seen in high efficiency concept cars from the auto makers themselves.)

Definitely lots of learning going on though.

(And no argument about the freaks point.)
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:34 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Did Columbus "discover" America? Was DNA discovered by scientists? Did I discover this website when I found it?

The point is that if someone just told me to cover my lower radiator, I wouldn't. But I "discovered" that if I did it might help with my warm up time, might improve my aerodynamics, and might help my MPG by reading the "research" other users posted on the forum.
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:45 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Point taken. Semantics strikes again.
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:50 AM   #17 (permalink)
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No. Because even totally retarded ideas can spin off good ideas. The point is to get us thinking. Laughing usually helps.
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:53 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I'm intrigued by the idea of a "crackpot ideas" subforum. Unless there's good evidence the mod works, it's clear to visitors why it's in there.
...simply create a separate, special page, called "THE TRASH CAN", with the subtitle: where garbage is discovered, researched, mulched, fermented and decomposed (wink,wink).
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:57 AM   #19 (permalink)
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No. Because even totally retarded ideas can spin off good ideas. The point is to get us thinking. Laughing usually helps.
Totally agree, in theory.

But in practice how many good ideas have been spun off our fuel line magnet threads??
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Old 01-28-2011, 12:51 PM   #20 (permalink)
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This site is one of the few credible sites that have serious information and people debunking such scams. Banning the discussion just moves it to sites like PESN where there is nothing but supporters. That will lead to more people falling for the scam as there will be nothing but good reviews of it. In the end they will just burn more fuel and that is not what we are about.

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