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Old 05-30-2019, 02:15 AM   #31 (permalink)
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..Our Hyundai Elantra, bad-mouthed for poor MPG by leadfooters, just got 45MPG, traveling from Eastern Washington to West Washington, over 3000+ foot Snoqualmie Pass.
The post above was our automatic Elantra. Just today, a round-trip from Western Washington to Eastern WA & back, in our MANUAL TRANNY ELANTRA, crossing over 4000+foot Stevens Pass both ways, & burning 87 octane E10, showed 49MPG on the trip computer as we neared home. With our 87 octane gasoline cars, I've noted that true MPG with 87 octane E10 usually is 2 to 3 MPG less than the computer. But burning efficient 87 octane 100% gasoline (E0) the car computer is quite accurate.

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..... a stop for....gasoline, (then) turned 45MPG while passing over a 3000 foot mountain pass.
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The post above was our automatic Elantra. Just today, a round-trip from Western Washington to Eastern WA & back, in our MANUAL TRANNY ELANTRA, crossing over 4000+foot Stevens Pass both ways, .....showed 49MPG on the trip computer as we neared home.
Not only was the MPG higher with the manual, while climbing MORE mountain slopes, our 6 speed manual Elantra, from the factory, has ~ 6% lower gearing than the automatic (in 6th gear), which gives better acceleration & holds a gear better in the mountains. It really feels like the manual Elantra has more power than the 6speed automatic. Are automatic transmission losses great enough to give a seat-of-the-pants feel, as compared to a manual transmission? The automatic Elantra likes to be in 4th while ascending to 4000+ foot Stevens Pass. The manual was equally happy (or a bit more?) to be in 5th gear ascending to Stevens Pass, even with an extra person. I have to test both transmissions to see what rpms (at a given speed) the automatic has in 4th gear, as compared to the rpms (at the same given speed) the manual gives in 5th gear (Yes, I'll do that!!).
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another issue of high prices is the gas stations making a killer profit here in California they stayed at 4.29 premium fuel over despite even in LA it was less then my area by about 20 cents(same brand) EVEN cheaper if you got the car wash at 3.89(remium fuel)
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another issue of high prices is the gas stations making......
Tho gas has been dropping for a while in the U.S., the eastern Salish Sea(Puget Sound) shows itself to be separate from the rest of country, by holding on to high prices($3.30-$3.50). A few places dropped to $3, with one spot dropping to $2.75. One town had a gasoline war (it was so short, it was really only a skirmish), & prices dropped to $2.55 $ 2.48(even under Idaho prices). But sanity returned to the oil station markets & oil is back up. But I managed to get 34 gallons before the bounce back up. Yeah, yeah, yeah....I know gas in Texas is below $2.

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