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Old 03-16-2013, 11:16 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I don't think this was drafting. He was speeding, recklessly lane changing, talking on a phone or something... that corvette brakes far more quickly than that semi. [i.e., what "NachtRitter" said.]

What concerns me about drafting is road debris getting kicked up. I keep a little space between me and trailers, enough to keep other cars from jumping in and creating unsafe following distances again.
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As I said, pick the trucks that have flaps all the way down. Hardly any rubbish kicks up from under them. And they give a better draft at distance. If you are lucky enough to find one that is not swarmed by truck drafting corvette's, of course

Seriously, I draft most of the time. Up to now I have had about 5 sizeable stone hits on the front window, one left a dent that made repair necessary, but NONE of it happened while drafting...
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Perhaps he'll take that to heart, He's not the only one who rear-ended a semi in a Corvette.



That could be the driver's arm in the pic. I don't think the driver survived it.

(Edit: Was that the driver's arm or not? I'm not sure it was, Now.)

Here's another Corvette accident pic:



On a similar subject, Some time ago a couple in a Corvette sped past us and a mile or two later, We were the second car behind them at a red light. We didn't speed, Unlike them, If memory serves right.

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Top Corvette was speeding big time. Look at the truck´s rear structure resting on the back of the Vette´s rear wheel. For it to get there the collision must have lifted the back of the truck up at least a foot or so.
The drivers arm looks more like being a piece of the truck and foam filler from a seat. Not that the driver had any chance.

The lower Vette was rear ended and probably did nothing wrong.
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Seems like all drafters are driving Corvettes.
It must be some other issue with them
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If your car is aero you dont need to draft.

That second corvette has a nice system in the back. I bet they just werent payng attention. It looks way too aero to need to draft.
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Drafting has almost no effect on my mileage in the aerocivic. If you get your Cd low enough, you are literally drafting yourself.

If you plan to make a practice of drafting, it can be useful to mount an airspeed indicator in your car with the pitot tube mounted at the nose of your car. Then when drafting, position your car in the the lowest airspeed zone you can find at your selected following distance. Airspeed indicators are also useful for detecting head and tail winds and speed compensating for them.
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Any closer than not being able to see both mirrors on the sides of the truck is too close. I get danged tired of it, it's tailgating. And the truck driver is at work. The rest of you morons drafting need to be responsible . . because you aren't when you are closer than the above. There is no responsible drafting since the distances preclude being-able-to-respond.

And the various state and federal agencies, insurance racketeers, etc will count this against the truck driver who should be blameless. No, it isn't fair, and yes, it happens.

Can I show up at your place of work and put erroneous, potentially career ending info in your employment file? Please post up that employer contact info publically.

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Couldn't agree more slowmover, safety is more important than fuel economy.

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