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Old 04-29-2012, 03:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Good info Stan,
I was at Lowes and saw they had some Polyisocyanurate Foam board,
twice as expensive as EPS foam, but I took a tiny sample home and it didn't melt from polyester resin. It is apparantly a stronger type of polyurethane
from a what little wikipedia says Polyisocyanurate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Do you know much about this stuff? I'm going to use some of it in my car, but now I'm thinking maybe my sailboat project even though I will use epoxy on the boat, this foam seems a LOT cheaper than PVC foam.
Yes, I'm very familiar with this foam. There are several different formulations of urethane foams and this is one of them. And in fact, is exactly what I had in mind when I wrote under Urethane Foam, "Sold as tan-colored closed-cell insulation at home improvement stores."

The challenge with urethane foams is that at low densities and thin sheets they tend to break down over time into dust (literally) under repeated vibration and pounding loads, so I recommend not using them in boat hulls, homebuilt airplanes, car body parts, etc. You live in Sactown, and pvc foam is available at Interstate Plastics for $70 for a 4'x8'x1/4" sheet.

I realize that may give you a bit of sticker shock, but pvc foam is a MUCH better choice, and in the big scheme of things, isn't much compared to the price of a complete boat.

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Old 04-29-2012, 04:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
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we are getting a little off-topic, but I see there are 4 and 6lb densities available from a manufacturer in Indiana, is this going to be good?
how long does it take to crumble? This is even when clad in glass?
I would not use it in a significant structural role. My hulls are epoxy coated plywood, the cabin structure is what I'm looking at building primarily,
and I need the insulation value as well.

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Yes, I'm very familiar with this foam. There are several different formulations of urethane foams and this is one of them. And in fact, is exactly what I had in mind when I wrote under Urethane Foam, "Sold as tan-colored closed-cell insulation at home improvement stores."

The challenge with urethane foams is that at low densities and thin sheets they tend to break down over time into dust (literally) under repeated vibration and pounding loads, so I recommend not using them in boat hulls, homebuilt airplanes, car body parts, etc. You live in Sactown, and pvc foam is available at Interstate Plastics for $70 for a 4'x8'x1/4" sheet.

I realize that may give you a bit of sticker shock, but pvc foam is a MUCH better choice, and in the big scheme of things, isn't much compared to the price of a complete boat.
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we are getting a little off-topic, but I see there are 4 and 6lb densities available from a manufacturer in Indiana, is this going to be good? how long does it take to crumble? This is even when clad in glass?
I would not use it in a significant structural role. My hulls are epoxy coated plywood, the cabin structure is what I'm looking at building primarily,
and I need the insulation value as well.
Yeah, sorry about the topic drift...

Anyway, I don't have exact data, as it will depend on thickness, loading and the specific formulation. If the application is not in the hull and is not carrying primary loads, I don't see why you couldn't use any foam you like in that case.

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