Go Back   EcoModder Forum > AltModding > Saving@Home
Register Now
 Register Now
 


Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-12-2011, 12:26 PM   #41 (permalink)
The $500 Electric Car
 
vpoppv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cushing,Oklahoma
Posts: 430
Thanks: 6
Thanked 26 Times in 20 Posts
I've never disconnected the cables when charging a battery and haven't run in to problems.

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to vpoppv For This Useful Post:
j12piprius (03-12-2011)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 03-12-2011, 02:02 PM   #42 (permalink)
Old Retired R&D Dude
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Woburn Mass USA
Posts: 702

Little Red - '12 Toyota Prius c 2 Two
90 day: 57.82 mpg (US)

"Whitey" Bulger - '14 Toyota RAV4 LE
Thanks: 10
Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnlvs2run View Post
This thread seems the closest to my question, so here goes. I have charged my chevy batteries for many years, without disconnecting any cables from the car - however found this in the 1999 honda owner's manual.



Is this really necessary?

Do you disconnect the cables when charging a car battery?
Because the battery presents a large load to the charger, the charge voltage
will normally never climb above what's used to charge the battery as you drive.
(Alternator charging).

But, some (Dumb) high current chargers will apply a lot of voltage to the battery,at the end of the charge.
It could be up around 15v or more.

The worse case scenario is connecting a dumb charger to a battery that has an open cell.
That's when the charger could put extra high voltage on the battery, and the electronics in your car.
The stuff that stays on all the time.
__________________
Cheers,
Rich

Current ride: 2014 RAV4 LE AWD (24 MPG)

Wife's Pizza Transporter
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Xringer For This Useful Post:
j12piprius (03-12-2011)
Old 03-14-2011, 07:30 PM   #43 (permalink)
home of the odd vehicles
 
rmay635703's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere in WI
Posts: 3,882

Silver - '10 Chevy Cobalt XFE
Thanks: 500
Thanked 865 Times in 652 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xringer View Post
But, some (Dumb) high current chargers will apply a lot of voltage to the battery,at the end of the charge.
It could be up around 15v or more.

The worse case scenario is connecting a dumb charger to a battery that has an open cell.
That's when the charger could put extra high voltage on the battery, and the electronics in your car.
The stuff that stays on all the time.
??? Generally the absolute max voltage limit for 12v electronics is rather high in the 18-24v area before anything actually becomes damaged. I have owned many many dumb chargers and none has ever been able to exceed
16v, even open terminal no load.

So, Unless you are running a strip of bailing wire out of a 220v wall socket to charge your 12v battery it is nearly impossible for you to get a battery that high. (I say nearly because I have seen some pretty amazing things done but in reality it may as well be impossible)

Cheers
Ryan
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 08:28 PM   #44 (permalink)
Old Retired R&D Dude
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Woburn Mass USA
Posts: 702

Little Red - '12 Toyota Prius c 2 Two
90 day: 57.82 mpg (US)

"Whitey" Bulger - '14 Toyota RAV4 LE
Thanks: 10
Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts
I wouldn't put 18-24 volts on any of my 12vdc ham gear. But, that's just me..
Hey, maybe my 150 watt VHF amp will put out 300w at 24v..?.

I have smoked some small 12vdc electronics using "12" vdc wall-warts.
The last one turned out the 12vdc wall-wart was actually putting out over 18vdc (no load).
Toasted a real nice cable TV amplifier..

I'm not sure what my dumb Sears 6 & 12 volt battery charger/starter supply puts out when open..
I'll have to check it sometimes. You've got me curious now.
__________________
Cheers,
Rich

Current ride: 2014 RAV4 LE AWD (24 MPG)

Wife's Pizza Transporter
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2011, 08:50 PM   #45 (permalink)
home of the odd vehicles
 
rmay635703's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere in WI
Posts: 3,882

Silver - '10 Chevy Cobalt XFE
Thanks: 500
Thanked 865 Times in 652 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xringer View Post
I have smoked some small 12vdc electronics using "12" vdc wall-warts.
The last one turned out the 12vdc wall-wart was actually putting out over 18vdc (no load).
Toasted a real nice cable TV amplifier..

I'm not sure what my dumb Sears 6 & 12 volt battery charger/starter supply puts out when open..
I'll have to check it sometimes. You've got me curious now.
I would guess that wall wort was for something else in a higher load and not really a charger or it was failing.

I guess once something fails all bets are off.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Longtime Lurker Looking for Miles ZX40 Electric Micro van mods & information rmay635703 Fossil Fuel Free 49 07-06-2014 10:27 PM
More smaller batteries vs. Less bigger batteries GooberPea Motorcycles / Scooters 34 02-04-2014 02:56 PM
Battery heating for EV efficiency bennelson Fossil Fuel Free 21 01-22-2010 09:52 PM
Need help with XB-600 scooter - Blew up the batteries! eeraser Motorcycles / Scooters 11 06-16-2009 12:59 AM
GM's Reportedly Road-Testing Lithium-Ion Batteries for the Volt SVOboy Fossil Fuel Free 5 05-25-2008 02:38 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com