Rising Fuel Prices - Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum

steddie · 11-16-2021, 12:11 AM

Hello y'al
Just telling you guys and gals that your rising fuel prices is nothing compared with the fuel prices here in New Zealand where they have gone up to $9.46 per US Gallon NZ money, or 2.499 per liter, so i dont think your price for petrol/gas is that bad.
Greetings Eddie.

iikhod · 11-16-2021, 02:02 AM

I was going to do a similar post about finnish prices but guess i'll just sit quiet in the corner with 8.70$/gallon (2€/litre)prices

oil pan 4 · 11-16-2021, 03:23 AM

I drive electric so I don't care.

ECO-AKJ · 11-16-2021, 02:29 PM

Around Springfield Mo it has gone up almost $2.00/gal in the last 19 months

hayden55 · 11-17-2021, 11:18 AM

I saw the electricity prices from other countries as well. I was flabbergasted when they were bragging about Germany having a lot of renewables and that their electricity price was $0.32/kWh. Locally ours is $0.08/kWh so that means my ~$200/mo bill would be $800. JEEZ. I see why they have so many renewables. lol

MeteorGray · 11-17-2021, 11:42 AM

The price of renewables is part of the price problem. I'd suspect coal is significantly cheaper.

I see that there may be a push in some places in Europe to reopen coal plants that haven't already been demolished if there is a cold winter this year. Otherwise, there may be some problems getting warm.

And Russia is grinning now that the US administration has approved of its new gas pipeline into Germany. I wonder how kind Putin will be in terms of price and supply vs NATO complaining about his potential aggression in Ukraine.

I read that wood is being stockpiled in some areas of the US as a counter to the rising price of natural gas and fuel oil. That's not good news for the environment.

hayden55 · 11-17-2021, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MeteorGray

The price of renewables is part of the price problem. I'd suspect coal is significantly cheaper.

I see that there may be a push in some places in Europe to reopen coal plants that haven't already been demolished if there is a cold winter this year. Otherwise, there may be some problems getting warm.

And Russia is grinning now that the US administration has approved of its new gas pipeline into Germany. I wonder how kind Putin will be in terms of price and supply vs NATO complaining about his potential aggression in Ukraine.

I read that wood is being stockpiled in some areas of the US as a counter to the rising price of natural gas and fuel oil. That's not good news for the environment.

I'm convinced the world has lost its mind.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ow-2021-09-20/

I would expect high prices this winter and spring. Probably peak. Locally they are starting to talk about how democrats are screwed going into midterms if they don't lower energy prices back to normal. Warms my heart that they care enough about our votes to possibly lower prices. They care about us. <3

Also, I don't mean to make it political. The majority of both sides are completely bribed by businesses. *yikes*

aerohead · 11-17-2021, 01:55 PM

During all the price volatility for crude oil, Diesel, gasoline, and propane, my electric rate hasn't varied a penny.
And since I have the option to drive on it, I'm going to exercise that option.
Use the fossil-fuel for something useful, like filling up the Pacific with plastic refuse, so I can drive from L.A., to Honolulu.

Isaac Zachary · 11-17-2021, 02:00 PM

IIRC my electricity has gone up 7 cents (18 instead of 11) since the last time I looked at it. Colorado and my county and city are threatening that it will continue to rise. This is due to a plan to go zero emissions and rely entirely on renewables.

Edit:

Never mind. I did the math myself from my bill and didn't realize there was a monthly base charge. If you include the base charge I'm paying about 11 cents per kWh. Obviously if I used more that "price" would go down. But dividing it into categories, I pay $16.25 base rate and almost 9 cents per kWh on top of that. So not bad at all.

aerohead · 11-17-2021, 02:37 PM

The object is to 'own' them ( a look at the motion picture 'The AVIATOR' is instructive ).
And once you've bought them, they're to remain 'bought.'
The only remedy would be the Supreme Court re-ruling on the 'Due Process' clause of the 14th-Amendment. Otherwise, the people who do the buying give a louder voice to the legal fictions they speak for, which pass for 'persons.' And with a much louder voice than actual 'persons.'
'Follow the money' ( DEEP THROAT )