ROFL here's a good one

[ShadeTreeMech]

Here's to hoping. I put up a new thread talking about comparing MPG figures on the Maxima forum. Maybe we can get a few people talking about it there and start spreading the love of hypermiling.

[bandit86]

Originally Posted by orange4boy

.26Cd to .17Cd is almost 35% better. Hmmm. I guess I should just give up.

how do you actually know what you end up with after all the mods? .17 is amazing, wish I could do that to a suzuki sidekick

[Frank Lee]

If you have the rest of the data you could enter values into the fe calculator.

[Piwoslaw]

Originally Posted by ShadeTreeMech

Here's to hoping. I put up a new thread talking about comparing MPG figures on the Maxima forum. Maybe we can get a few people talking about it there and start spreading the love of hypermiling.

I wish you more luck with that thread than I've had at my local Peugeot forum. Whenever someone starts a fuel consumption thread for my model/engine, the posts claim 7-12 l/100km. I come in with 4.5 l/100km. Noone says anything like "Good going!", or "So what's your secret?". The comments I get are rude at best. Granny-driving and all that. Even though I stress that I do not dirve 20 below the speed limit when not alone, and do not take hours to accelerate when the light turns to green. I guess it's hurt pride that someone has an almost stock car and gets twice the milage.

[ShadeTreeMech]

IIRC, poland has lower fuel prices than the majority of Europe at large. Is it still that way? The lower prices may contribute to an I don't care attitude toward economy.

Thus far, I quoted my MPG figure, and far from being ridiculed, people have been showing off their higher economy figures or complaining about their lower numbers. There also seems to be some intelligent discussion as to the whys and hows of better economy. So it makes me proud to have started a thread that seems to be quite popular.

[vtec-e]

I've tried broaching the subject on an Irish forum and i got 100% abuse and derision. It isn't a hypermiling forum or anything like that but it did have a motoring section.
I also brought it up in a very geeky, way over my head forum where they could calculate how much fuel it would take to send the ISS into orbit around the moon. But all i got was abuse and lectures about safety. No calculations or anything, just abuse.
Mind you, there are a few yaris drivers out there that are more open to it. That in itself tells me a lot.

ollie

[Piwoslaw]

Originally Posted by ShadeTreeMech

IIRC, poland has lower fuel prices than the majority of Europe at large. Is it still that way? The lower prices may contribute to an I don't care attitude toward economy.

They are lower than in Germany, but the income is even less, so proportionally fuel is more expensive. Recent prices:
95 octane gas: 1.17€/liter or $5.86/gallon
98 octane gas: 1.25€/liter or $6.25/gallon
diesel: 1.12€/liter or $5.60/gallon
I'd love to see what would be going on in the US with prices like those. People would be pushing their SUVs to work.

[comptiger5000]

With gas prices like that, a 5 speed swap in my Jeep would suddenly become a lot more cost effective, especially with it needing premium!

[ShadeTreeMech]

Holy crap, that IS some pricey fuel. I suppose I missassumed a fact based on a motoring program called 5th gear, where they drove a new diesel hypermiling car from the UK to Poland just to fuel up. Apparently at the time it was the cheapest place to buy diesel in Europe.

Why is it so much more expensive in Europe compared to the US? Is the fuel heavily taxed?

[Piwoslaw]

Originally Posted by ShadeTreeMech

Why is it so much more expensive in Europe compared to the US? Is the fuel heavily taxed?

Off the top of my head, taxes are 30%-70% of the price, depends on the country. Plus Europe doesn't have as much domestic oil as the US does. Poland imports almost all of its oil and gas by pipeline from Russia. And the more politicians talk about being less dependant, the more fuel they buy.