Sandy Munro compares Model S built quality to a 90s Kia

[Xist]

Ecomodders invented the MPGuino and the cool kids are installing them into their cars. T_vago has this interesting project: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ead-26469.html. Daox makes shifter knobs that go "Pew pew" and "Vroombwahaha." We have fan indicator lights. People have put engines into cars despite absolutely not belonging and other nightmares of wiring, but nobody has figured out how to make it easy to recover a dead electric car?

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Originally Posted by Xist

nobody has figured out how to make it easy to recover a dead electric car?

Jump start, just like any other car.

I'd carry something like this, as it could come in handy for charging a phone or used as a flashlight:

[freebeard]

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by Daox

Last I checked, no normal cars start with a dead 12V battery... Is this a design flaw too?

My old MT diesel would bump start and continue running with a bad battery and failed alternator

[freebeard]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PI46qVW2WA4/hqdefault.jpg

Why would anyone drive anything they can't start with the leather belt they are probably already wearing? I know, glow plug, right?

[Vman455]

Originally Posted by jamesqf

And yes, it is a design flaw because it would be simple to make the DC/DC converter provide current from the traction pack.

The Hyundai Ioniq is the first, and sole, production car to use a partition of the traction battery to provide 12V power without a separate 12V lead-acid battery. Perhaps others will follow suit.

[Xist]

It took me an hour to get a hold of the right mechanics, but one of those jump-started my bus with one of those small lithium jump-starters. I was amazed something so small brought something so large to life.

My Lieutenant still tried to get me in trouble for that I am pretty sure I did not understand why at the time.

I have also been intrigued by the ones that plug into your 12v port, but that is another thing I need to fix on my Civic...

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I know, glow plug, right?

There are many other tricks to enable cold-start in a Diesel with failed glowplugs, from ether to placing a few pieces of charcoal right over the cylinder head. Though I wouldn't feel comfortable to try some of those approaches in a modern Diesel...

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Originally Posted by Xist

I have also been intrigued by the ones that plug into your 12v port, but that is another thing I need to fix on my Civic...

I haven't tried the cigarette port type yet, but I doubt they are much use. Most cars require the key be turned to the ACC position, which activates some accessories which draw power. On top of that, the port is 10A limited, which means you cannot charge the battery at a rate faster than about 100 watts, which is low.

There just isn't any point. Who is so lazy they refuse to pop the hood to connect a jump pack? Maybe if I was wheelchair-bound it would make sense, but normally-abled people have no reason to be lazy.

[Xist]

The Telwin Mini has maximum starting amperage of 1,000: http://www.telwin.com/en/prodotti/?i...&idPrec=829392

Ten amps seems... less...

Do you have to ruin everything?!