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[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Xist

The Telwin Mini has maximum starting amperage of 1,000: Products | Telwin

Ten amps seems... less...

Do you have to ruin everything?!

Oh, I thought you were talking about the ones that "jump" the car through the cigarette socket, not the ones that can be charged up from the cigarette socket.

Here's what I thought you were talking about:



https://www.vat19.com/item/auto-jump...without-cables

Cigarette sockets are usually protected by a 10a fuse, so they can charge a jump pack slowly, but aren't very practical for going the other direction to jump the main vehicle battery.

To fix your cigarette socket, check the fuse first. If that's good, check the wires at the back of the socket. They sometimes come loose.

[Xist]

Somehow I was clearer the first time than the second. Yes, I referred to 12v car jumpers initially, but when you said they were limited to 10A I looked up the device in question, and shared its statistics.

So, it would work, it would only take a hundred times as long. My family had a thirty-minute conference call during my lunch break, which I can summarize in two sentences. If I can give enough information in eighteen seconds, is that 100 times as good as taking half an hour?

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I haven't tried the cigarette port type yet, but I doubt they are much use. Most cars require the key be turned to the ACC position, which activates some accessories which draw power. On top of that, the port is 10A limited, which means you cannot charge the battery at a rate faster than about 100 watts, which is low.

There just isn't any point. Who is so lazy they refuse to pop the hood to connect a jump pack? Maybe if I was wheelchair-bound it would make sense, but normally-abled people have no reason to be lazy.

I haven't even seen anybody using (or even claiming to use) the cigarette lighter as a power inlet for jump-start, only as a power outlet.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Xist

Somehow I was clearer the first time than the second. Yes, I referred to 12v car jumpers initially, but when you said they were limited to 10A I looked up the device in question, and shared its statistics.

So, it would work, it would only take a hundred times as long. My family had a thirty-minute conference call during my lunch break, which I can summarize in two sentences. If I can give enough information in eighteen seconds, is that 100 times as good as taking half an hour?

The thing muddying your example is the link was to a device that doesn't have a cigarette lighter adapter. It only has alligator clips to attach to the existing car battery.

The description was inaccurate too:

1000Ah of peak current

Amp hour is a measure of total electric flow. They meant to say 1000 A, which is a rate of electric flow. It's like the difference between measuring the rate of water flowing out of a faucet, and measuring the total volume of water collected in a bucket. If that battery had a 1000 Ah capacity, it would be far more energy dense than any other battery.

[Xist]

Guys! We have been working too hard! Just use this!


https://www.amazon.com/Eurow-Quick-J...70_&dpSrc=srch

The thing is, it looks terrible, but are those cables actually enough? I would want to review it, but not without free shipping. This one looks better, cheaper, and is Prime, but only has a four-foot cord: https://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-SA.../dp/B000H92L4W

I would purchase this if it was longer than four feet. What would I do with it? I do not have any idea! https://www.amazon.com/Cigarette-Lig.../dp/B01MYRV6PE

There is some convenience to not popping the hood, but needing ten minutes to adequately charge a weak battery? What about a completely dead one?

[RedDevil]

Four feet huh.
One end goes into the cigarette lighter socket, but the other end?

[redpoint5]

Speaking of jumper packs, this just appeared for $35 on Slickdeals:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...UZC6UH73&psc=1

Use code AUKEYBC1 to get it for $35

12 Ah and 400 CCA

[Xist]

Arguments are getting pretty rowdy on SlickDeals.

[samwichse]

All sold out! Buy 3 and get a decent ebike battery for $100...