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Old 11-26-2017, 06:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Self-driving cars programmed to decide who dies in a crash

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Self-driving cars programmed to decide who dies in a crash

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Old 11-26-2017, 10:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Last year, [...] a Daimler executive set off a wave of criticism when he was quoted as saying its autonomous vehicles would prioritize the lives of its passengers over anyone outside the car. The company later insisted he’d been misquoted, since it would be illegal “to make a decision in favor of one person and against another.”
The entire article argues they need to program these decisions.

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people [...] were less likely to buy any car “in which they and their family member would be sacrificed for the greater good.”
They mention Mesa, AZ!

I constantly saw self-driving cars in Tempe, the city to the west, Waymo, Uber, and a few other companies. I frequently saw a couple in a row.

One Uber car signaled to change lanes, started to, jerked back into its lane, and repeated a couple of more times.

I hope they work out that.

I read a similar article before that asked if you would want your car to save you or a stranger. "What if they won the Nobel Prize? What if they are discovering the cure to cancer?"

Trying to predict humans seems impossible, but determining Nobel Prize winners, and people that are not currently "important," but will be?

Really?

"Crystal Balls now come standard in self-driving cars."
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Old 11-26-2017, 01:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well now....
What would happen in a highway situation where many self driving cars exist - all with different program algorithms?
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This presumes the vehicle will maintain traction. Can the AI drift? With all that traction control?

How does the car know if the school bus is full or empty?
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Old 11-26-2017, 04:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I drove a school bus for a district that only serviced high schools. There were two elementary districts for K - 8, but one time they had me transport at least seventy small kids.

I could not see a single one of them over the seat, but it seemed like every single one of them was trying to talk over all of the rest of them.

What if the AI condemns a bus full of kindergartners because they were shorter than the seat backs? What if the AI saves someone who escaped from prison in an empty bus?

On the other hand, predicting other AIs should be easier, even if they are programmed differently.

"That is a Dodge, fire a photon torpedo. That is an Audi, use the EMP."

Plus, you know, maybe computers will communicate better than humans.
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If an autonomous vehicle decides to hit a pedestrian or vehicle and then misses, will the vehicle pursue that target until the task is completed?
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Old 11-26-2017, 07:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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There will be standard rules applied to make autonomous systems choose actions that result in the least loss of life. If a collision is unavoidable, the car will be programmed to preserve pedestrians and strike a vehicle.

I would only take a vehicle in which I could take manual control. When angry mobs are pulling people out of their vehicles, you need the ability to run them over.
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While we debate how many AVs can dance on the head of a pedestrian, the real problem is connecting AI to the blockchain. It just happened.



Gotta hand it to the Saudis. The gas spigot may be running dry but they have positioned themselves to tax the hive mind.
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It sounds quite reasonable that AI would be programmed to prefer material-only losses instead of a human death. Well, as far as recognizing when another vehicle is either full or empty, I guess some sort of thermal sensors might be deployed.
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We don't need the systems to be perfect; better than human judgement is still better.

Blame will still be placed as it is with a human driver.

Insurance will still be required for the rare instances where collisions occur.

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