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One more comment on this (because I've been doing my homework and kicking the local yocals' arses online): these two levies passed with 19% of the registered voters approval. "Majority"- Ha!  |
I hear you on that. Even in presidential election years, U.S. voter turnout has been varying between roughly only 54-64%, depending on which year, and whether you gauge by voting age population or by eligible voter count. In "off year" elections the level of participation can truly be dismal. United States Elections Project
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11-10-2011, 12:07 PM
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One more comment on this (because I've been doing my homework and kicking the local yocals' arses online): these two levies passed with 19% of the registered voters approval. "Majority"- Ha! |
That sounds strange. Are you saying the majority didn't vote, or the results were falsified? If the former, how do you know they opposed it? and if the latter, that's criminal.
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11-10-2011, 02:44 PM
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That sounds strange. Are you saying the majority didn't vote, or the results were falsified? If the former, how do you know they opposed it? and if the latter, that's criminal.
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If only 37% vote, then 19% is a majority. Local elections generally do not get high voter turnout.
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11-10-2011, 02:48 PM
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If only 37% vote, then 19% is a majority. Local elections generally do not get high voter turnout.
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Absolutely, and why I questioned how Frank knows the people who didn't vote all felt the same way about the issue. On an issue like this, as opposed to an election of a person for office, if you don't vote, you have no basis for complaint.
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I don't know how ALL the voters felt and I never claimed to. I said it passed with 19% of available voters voting yes. It passed with a majority of those WHO BOTHERED TO SHOW UP. In things like this you can really see how an energized special interest group who may or may not represent the majority, can get what they want because of the apathy of the general public.
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11-10-2011, 04:06 PM
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I don't know how ALL the voters felt and I never claimed to. I said it passed with 19% of available voters voting yes. It passed with a majority of those WHO BOTHERED TO SHOW UP. In things like this you can really see how an energized special interest group who may or may not represent the majority, can get what they want because of the apathy of the general public.
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Or they can pull a stunt like my local district did. A huge build-new-schools bond passed that has raised my property tax by 40%. It passed by 14 votes. I got a notice about the election in my mailbox, the day after voting was over. 
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That sounds like something that could be fought as class-action in court, if everyone got their notices after the fact.
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11-10-2011, 05:04 PM
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Absolutely, and why I questioned how Frank knows the people who didn't vote all felt the same way about the issue. On an issue like this, as opposed to an election of a person for office, if you don't vote, you have no basis for complaint.
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I would think that you have no basis for complaint in any election in which you do not vote.
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I would think that you have no basis for complaint in any election in which you do not vote.
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Unless the good candidates get outspent/smeared in primaries, so the final ticket is a choice between Tweedledum and Tweedledee. I think that constitutes a reason not to vote "for" either one, and a basis of complaint. That's why I made the distinction between voting on candidates and voting on issues.
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Might be a bad time to bring up that I'm seething over last night's successful passing of TWO school levies Thanks for perpetuating breeder welfare, rock star superintendent compensation, taj mahal school facilities, and general dysfunctional school management, idiot voters. |
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