side-cameras?

[NismoMax80]

i would think the cost would be way more than anything eventually saved with slight FE gains???

[MazdaMatt]

Anybody care to post before/after FE for a simple mirror delete? This would be the same thing, but the cost goes towards the safety factor.

[i_am_socket]

I had a .6 mpg improvement tank-to-tank after my passenger delete, but isn't exactly reliable data. Anyone with a gauge that can do an A-B-A test? Did Metro do one already?

[RP-CLMBR]

Originally Posted by i_am_socket

Jersey law is driver's side and rear-view mandatory, passenger side if the rear-view is blocked. I've gotten no problems from my passenger delete (though it really just looks like accident carnage at the moment).

An internal mirror would serve the same purpose, but I'd prefer the outside view and position adjustment that could come from an external video mount. Heck, if I could hook up the existing electric controls to change viewing angle...

Found this site for a rather convenient argument for video over mirrors (at least for those who prefer to allow computers to think for them): LINK

on the same link that coyotee bought his cameras and screens is a back up camera with monitor in rearview and it has a remote xy angle adjustment for $109 I think it is www.gooddeals18.com/product/plcm5800

[NeilBlanchard]

Hi,

I am very tempted to buy these for my car! How's the wiring done -- just plug the screen into the camera and power them up? Do both the camera nd he screen need their own power connection?

Originally Posted by Coyote X

Mine was pretty cheap, $25 for the camera and the 3.5" screen for $53

I did it by cutting off the base of the stock mirror then using a tube that the cameras fit inside to fiberglass into the base. After the fiberglass was strong enough I filled and smoothed it with lightweight body filler before painting it. They work pretty good and give a lot wider range than a normal mirror. The passenger side screen is a bit small but it gets the job done. Drivers side works great. Only bad thing is I have only managed to put 125 miles on the car since putting them on I need to get out and drive some more

TIA

[Thalass]

Originally Posted by tasdrouille

Cameras won't cut it in Canada. The best you can do is get rid of the passenger side mirror and downsize the driver side mirror as long as it meets the minimal specs.

Canada's motor vehicle safety act:

Maybe that's something to work on there. Rather than having a fisheye lens or pinhole, the camera should have a similar field of view that a mirror would provide, and have adjustment controls like power mirrors have. Even better would be adjustable aperture for night/day driving! I suppose you could do that electronically rather than mechanically.

That ought to satisfy some of the Man's objections at least.

[trikkonceptz]

I have since deleted my passenger side mirror and the only problem I'm having is backing in to spaces with visibility on that side.

As a fix, when I go to camera I will likely mount them in the front fenders recessed like an exhaust vent and low in the fender in order to see the ground and things like parking lines and such.

For now I will mount both screen directly in front of me @ the windshield so they are always in my line of site.

[NeilBlanchard]

Hi,

I've been contemplating using the adjustments on the stock mirror. But if you think about it, using a camera eliminates the need to make any adjustments -- since the purpose of adjusting the mirror is so different drivers can see the mirror. With a camera and screen, the equivalent adjustment would be on the screen, not the camera.

[dcb]

With a decent resolution fisheye camera, you could "unfisheye" the camera picture in software and pan up and down, left and right, on the monitor (and stabilize the picture), without introducing mechanical components that would be more prone to failure than their software counterparts.

[NeilBlanchard]

My new video cameras and screens arrived -- and boy the cameras are really small! They are about 5/8" in diameter x about 7/8" long. The holes in the mounting bracket are about 1 1/8" apart. I am going to have to try them out, but if they work well, or are better than my current cameras, I will make some fiberglass replacements for the stock mirror bases.

And, the screens did not come with stands, but I have stands from the old screens that should work.