slammed or hellaflush good for FE?

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by ProDarwin

You do realize that on many of the slammed cars, the tires don't actually contact the fenders or the suspension, right?

Check out the red car in the 2nd pic, the rubber on the tyre is worn away, and the all too narrow tyre is stretched beyond reasonable limits on the far too wide rims.

Downright ridiculous.

[UFO]

Originally Posted by euromodder

Check out the red car in the 2nd pic, the rubber on the tyre is worn away, and the all too narrow tyre is stretched beyond reasonable limits on the far too wide rims.

Downright ridiculous.

Dangerous. I've read up on how they mount those, they literally have to use an explosive to force the sidewalls to the rim.

[ProDarwin]

Originally Posted by euromodder

Check out the red car in the 2nd pic, the rubber on the tyre is worn away, and the all too narrow tyre is stretched beyond reasonable limits on the far too wide rims.

Downright ridiculous.

I think the second pic must be blocked for me here @ work... all I see is a VW Bus, followed by 2 pictures of a Rabbit with gross amounts of camber.

[UFO]

Here you go, ridiculous is a good word for it.

[racerc2000]

you also must remember one thing. those crazy stretched tires are lets say oem or smaller width on 9 or 10 inch wide rims.

to get a look the actual "fitment" does not require such a stretch they are pushing it to the limits but that is not a must or safe.

ide rather run motorcycle tires to get a rounded tire rather then a stretched tire that can fall off the bead.

[Sven7]

You guys are funny.

-the term the OP was looking for was "flush fitment"
-the red car is on air ride. The tire is worn because he lowers it while driving slowly at car shows. This is not the height he actually drives at
-I dare you to find an example of stretched tires being dangerous
-off roaders use explosions to reset the bead on the trail and are in a pinch
-the kind of fitment you'd want for aero is not as extreme as the red car or the *joke* VW

Settle down- they're just stretched tires. If those were a problem people wouldn't do it all the time with very valuable wheels.

[Cd]

[QUOTE=Sven7;287568]You guys are funny.


-the kind of fitment you'd want for aero is not as extreme as the red car or the *joke* VW

[QUOTE]

Yup. The muscled up dude in that picture is a bad Photoshop cut and paste.

[UFO]

Originally Posted by Sven7

You guys are funny.

-the term the OP was looking for was "flush fitment"
-the red car is on air ride. The tire is worn because he lowers it while driving slowly at car shows. This is not the height he actually drives at
-I dare you to find an example of stretched tires being dangerous
-off roaders use explosions to reset the bead on the trail and are in a pinch
-the kind of fitment you'd want for aero is not as extreme as the red car or the *joke* VW

Settle down- they're just stretched tires. If those were a problem people wouldn't do it all the time with very valuable wheels.

Come on, there is a reason you have to do it yourself and professional tire mounters will not assume liability. You can rupture the tire bead, and the tire load rating is greatly diminished.

[Sven7]

I'll give you that mounting them isn't the safest thing to do. But driving on them is not dangerous. I haven't heard of even one instance of a stretched tire breaking a bead or whatever. People do this all the time and have been for decades (bosozoku).

I will bet you there are more tire failures from under-inflation and other user errors than stretching.

[racerc2000]

is safe?

After looking at manufacturer specs for 185/60-15 tires, I see that the Rim Width Range listed is 5-6.5" or 5-7" depending on brand. The Goodyears are the ones that appear to handle a 7" wheel.

Where does this number come from? This number is generated by the tire engineers that want to produce a recommended number in which for 100% of all cases, it is a known safe combination.

What does an 8" wheel do? Well, it moves it into the range of less than 100% certainty of safety. The problem is that the number isn't known. Engineers are fairly conservative folks when it comes to safety, as there are lawyers and liability involved. So... 8" could fall into the 60% safety range or the 95% safety range... Heck, it might even be 98-99%. It can't be said for sure without running the same calculations and simulations that those engineers did.

Personally I wouldn't be totally comfortable with it based on that analysis of the situation... but I'm not going to fault anybody that does. That's my totally unbiased view of it.

but thats all well and good. people take this into the 9 10 11 inch wide range

theres a bump in the rim (on recent rims) that is supposed to keep a tire bead in place. If you run stretched tires there's a chance the tire could debead while driving, and if it loses too much pressure it will also debead, depending on the stretch. old wheels didnt even have the safety bead bump thingy.

now. my take on the whole safety issue would be how many people actually have tires last 50k miles in such a state?



I see nothing wrong or unsafe about the left but would question the right. its not that a stretch is unsafe just overdoing anything makes it questionable.


points you here http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2492509
people who are really into the scene take tire replacements and scraping as costs of the culture.

and this is a non bagged daily driver. hence the ones that are hardcore about it. not just bagged