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Old 05-03-2019, 01:03 PM   #451 (permalink)
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I think the new Toyota Corolla Hybrid and Honda Insight have a good chance at becoming main stream. Especially the Toyota Camry Hybrid. That thing looks damn good. But the Prius... **** that thing is ugly.
Same with a majority of other green cars.
We should all take a note from Mercedes Benz catalog's low cd designs that don't give me cancer when I look at them. lol

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Old 05-03-2019, 01:29 PM   #452 (permalink)
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The range will be cut in half by putting enough trailer behind it. Putting stuff in the bed that doesn't stick up above the cab won't do much to the range.
Where in that link does it mention 500 mile range?

The Tesla Roadster 2 will have a range of 620 miles. So, a larger pickup can certainly have as big / bigger battery pack.
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Old 05-03-2019, 03:12 PM   #453 (permalink)
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I think the new Toyota Corolla Hybrid and Honda Insight have a good chance at becoming main stream. Especially the Toyota Camry Hybrid. That thing looks damn good. But the Prius... **** that thing is ugly.
Same with a majority of other green cars.
We should all take a note from Mercedes Benz catalog's low cd designs that don't give me cancer when I look at them. lol

Automakers seems to be moving away from dedicated hybrids with unique styling and towards just adding a hybrid option to their regular vehicle.

I would add the Honda Accord Hybrid to your list. The Accord Hybrid is only $1600 more than the base model LX and is better equipped. The Hybrid boosts fuel economy from 33 mpg to 48 mpg combined. Why would anyone buy the base LX?
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Old 05-03-2019, 03:53 PM   #454 (permalink)
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The 500 mile range is from one of Tesla's press releases. The link is just an example of an electric truck being developed.
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33 MPG at $3 a gallon is 9.09¢ a gallon.
48 MPG at $3 a gallon is 6.25¢ a gallon, a savings of 2.8409¢ per mile.

The break-even point is 56,320 miles.

Why wouldn't you keep a Honda longer than that? I keep mine that many miles, but I buy them with at least 150,000 miles!
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I doubt I've driven 240,000 miles in my life (estimating 2000miX50yrs)
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:06 AM   #458 (permalink)
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I doubt I've driven 240,000 miles in my life (estimating 2000miX50yrs)
That’s about two years for me.
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We kept our last new car for 240,000 miles.

Our last new car we bought was a 2003 Jetta Wagon TDI. We drove it 239,038 miles over 10 years. At about 200,000 miles things in the interior started breaking and I got tired of fixing it so I sold it to a friend of my dad's. He has put another 100K or so on it and it is still going strong.

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The break-even point is 56,320 miles.

Why wouldn't you keep a Honda longer than that? ...
People want something different. In my adult life I've only had 1 car that I replaced because something major failed. The rest I'd had about 10 years and just wanted something different.

Then there is leasing. About 30% of new cars sales are leased and a typical lease term is 2-3 years. I'll only put about 27-28K miles on my Spark EV before it goes back this fall. (The Spark was an impulse purchase more to see what driving an EV was like than anything)

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