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Old 01-10-2024, 03:06 PM   #21 (permalink)
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that's not going to make a car get 100mpg.
The problem isn't engineering a 100 MPG car, it's finding the customer willing to live with the compromises required to achieve it...

Gashole suggests there was unicorn magic everyone could have had, but Big Oil suppressed it and now all our problems are attributable to them.

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Old 01-10-2024, 03:10 PM   #22 (permalink)
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that's not going to make a car get 100mpg.
The problem isn't engineering a 100 MPG car, it's finding the customer willing to live with the compromises required to achieve it...

Gashole suggests there was unicorn magic everyone could have had, but Big Oil suppressed it and now all our problems are attributable to them.

Then there's the inconvenient truth that transportation is 13% of US energy consumption, and only 1/3rd of fossil fuel consumption. It would be excellent to vastly improve transportation efficiency, but it's not solving anything.
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Old 01-11-2024, 09:26 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I figured the unicorn claim was that the magic made a normal car get 100mpg.
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The first hit in a Google search (100 mpg water vapor car) on the topic provides information not covered in the film Gashole.


FARM SHOW Magazine » Farm Show - Volume 5, Issue 3, 1981

100 Mpg Carburetors: Do They Really Work?
https://www.farmshow.com/view_articles.php?a_id=822
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But there are other reasons such carburetors fail. Many of them just plain don't work. The Pogue carburetor, invented by Canadian C.N. Pogue, stormed onto the U.S. and Canadian scenes in the 1930's and regularly pops back into the limelight every five or 10 years.

When the carburetor first appeared, it was said to boost gas mileage to as high as 200 mpg. Many of the reports were well-documented, which accounts for the continued interest in the unit. In all, less than 100 of the carburetors were built.

Pogue, who is still alive and admits the carburetor doesn't work, has explained the failure this way: Before 1936, most gasoline was produced by a "skimming" process which produced less gasoline per barrel of oil but vaporized easily. When oil companies moved to a chemical "cracking" process, they were able to get more gasoline but produced a product that needed higher heat to completely vaporize. A varnish would build up in his carburetor's vaporizing chamber.

Many skeptics, however, don't buy that explanation. They maintain that the real reason high-mileage carburetors never end up on cars is because they're "bought up" by big oil companies and shelved. "That's pure nonsense," counter the oil companies, pointing out that patents are public information. Anybody can copy the patent and go into production. Oil companies, they point out, couldn't possibly "buy off" millions of people.

Tom Ogle, El Paso, New Mexico, is a more recent inventor of a highly publicized high-mileage carburetor. Initial reports on the carburetor in the mid-70's claimed Ogle had achieved 100 mpg on cross country trips in a full-sized car..........
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It's impossible to get enough power out of gasoline to push a car down a road at highway speed. If you're going to get anywhere near 100mpg it's to have to be at like 30mph.
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