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Old 02-04-2025, 11:05 AM   #311 (permalink)
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Inverse square law applies even to Edwards radar. Except for migration, didn't see many birds there, ever, maybe a bunch of buzzards flying through. Only every so often did we have a carcass, but no burn mark, but typically impact injuries.

Doubt if oil pan 4 is anywhere near the energy path which AFAIK, is centered and focused slightly upwards and way above his position. Might be seeing maybe 10 watts absorption, not even enough to warm up a cup of coffee. Could be enough to mutate cells into cancerous ones after a while. However his modern computer car is more sensitive than he is

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Could be enough to mutate cells into cancerous ones after a while. However his modern computer car is more sensitive than he is
Mutation is only possible from ionizing radiation... I suppose in theory, killing healthy tissue from heat and forcing regeneration introduces opportunity for mutation.
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Inverse square law applies even to Edwards radar. Except for migration, didn't see many birds there, ever, maybe a bunch of buzzards flying through. Only every so often did we have a carcass, but no burn mark, but typically impact injuries.

Doubt if oil pan 4 is anywhere near the energy path which AFAIK, is centered and focused slightly upwards and way above his position. Might be seeing maybe 10 watts absorption, not even enough to warm up a cup of coffee. Could be enough to mutate cells into cancerous ones after a while. However his modern computer car is more sensitive than he is
I'm on the ground. Birds would be in the radars path since they just kind of fly around and do whatever.
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I'd like to see that. We know ivanpah is instant bird disablement followed by a probably slow death.
I'd like to see all these dead birds from radars.
Ive been driving past, within 40 feet of an air surveillance radar 5 days a week for to last 2 and a half years that blasts out out up to 25kw at 3ghz. Never seen a dead bird anywhere near it. How many years does it take for one of these radars to kill a bird? Or do they only kill birds on Saturdays?
There's a remote radar site, N-E of the base, going towards Boron, California ( where Pancho Barnes finished out her days ).
I ran Diesel out there, to fuel their ground power unit.
The day I enlisted, I got to North Hollywood early, and killed time in a local coffee shop. They had an AMANA Radar Range, and it was the first microwave I'd seen ( 1971 ).
Chatting with the radar crew, I brought it up, and it was then that they mentioned the power of their beam, and what it did to passing birds.
It may be restricted air space there, and to better see up to in excess of 100,000-feet ( experimental aircraft ), 80,000-ft for U-2s and the YF-12A , their equipment may require stronger signals. That would be above 'secret', which is all I had.
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There's a remote radar site, N-E of the base, going towards Boron, California ( where Pancho Barnes finished out her days ).
I ran Diesel out there, to fuel their ground power unit.
The day I enlisted, I got to North Hollywood early, and killed time in a local coffee shop. They had an AMANA Radar Range, and it was the first microwave I'd seen ( 1971 ).
Chatting with the radar crew, I brought it up, and it was then that they mentioned the power of their beam, and what it did to passing birds.
It may be restricted air space there, and to better see up to in excess of 100,000-feet ( experimental aircraft ), 80,000-ft for U-2s and the YF-12A , their equipment may require stronger signals. That would be above 'secret', which is all I had.
So it a secret squirrel one off radar.
The hundreds of wind farms around the US kill way more birds.
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