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Old 09-08-2018, 07:56 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 11-29-2018, 12:32 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Sadly, the price has gone up - quite a bit - on this car.

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Fully Charged has a close look, and a bit of a drive:

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Did the dive include how dumb solar is on a car, including the cost?
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No, but they actually drove the car.
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Too bad the car is $29,000 which is too much in the current market with proven brands in the mix at similar pricing.

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Did the dive include how dumb solar is on a car, including the cost?
Semi flex solar panels are about $0.37 a watt
1200watts = $444

Which honestly isn’t that bad, Solar is getting down to hobbiest pricing which starts to deflate arguments against it.

If my truck had some solar maybe it wouldn’t phantom drain it’s battery in the winter causing failure.
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$444 will buy me 5550 kWh of electricity. How many days would it take to generate 5550 kWh, given overcast days, parked in a garage where cars are supposed to be parked, sitting under the shade of a tree...

Whole thing is dumb.
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$444 will buy me 5550 kWh of electricity. How many days would it take to generate 5550 kWh,
My 360W panels have never produced more than 320Wh in a day (converted to petrol that's 0.02l per day or about $10 a year!), the part where it really gets to be a gimmick is when they mount the panels vertically on the sides of the car, probably producing an average of 2% of their rated output

Of course that $0.37/W doesn't count mounting, controllers and wires. My install using best practice and quality parts cost around $1000. Cheap panels fail long before payback, expensive panels might too.
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$444 will buy me 5550 kWh of electricity. How many days would it take to generate 5550 kWh, given overcast days, parked in a garage where cars are supposed to be parked, sitting under the shade of a tree...

Whole thing is dumb.

To get a different “radio” package on certain cars you have to pay about $2500

How many radios can you buy for $2500?


To get different OEM wheels as an option can be over $5000,
How many tires can you get for $5000?


Lots of things are stupid in new cars, luckily once the car is used the cost of entry goes down And further have a mass produced option reduces the cost of entry further.


I’ve never parked in a garage and there are no trees in the lot where I park every day.
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Yeah, but radios are useful in a car. Solar panels aren't.

Since I have no interest in this dumb project, I haven't studied it. What is the total rated kW output of the solar panels they have installed?

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