Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-12-2023, 07:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Ecky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 5,077

ND Miata - '15 Mazda MX-5 Special Package
90 day: 39.72 mpg (US)

Oxygen Blue - '00 Honda Insight
90 day: 54.69 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,904
Thanked 2,560 Times in 1,586 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard View Post
It's easier to get a 50% improvement at the low end of the scale.
What's even better is, the monetary savings are significantly higher going from 14 to 21mpg, than from even 50 to 100.

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 12-13-2023, 05:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
Old But New Ecomodder
 
LostinTransit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2023
Location: Annapolis Junction, Maryland
Posts: 41
Thanks: 8
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
My fuel economy didn't go through the roof,. but I did gain about 5% increase
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to LostinTransit For This Useful Post:
Piotrsko (12-15-2023)
Old 12-14-2023, 11:32 AM   #13 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,267
Thanks: 24,392
Thanked 7,360 Times in 4,760 Posts
I believe I misspoke

Tracking the comments following my remark, it struck me that I've probably misinterpreted the ' 14-21' to have indicated ' 14-mpg CITY and 21-mpg HWY, not an improvement of 14-mpg HWY, to 21-mpg HWY attributed exclusively to the 'aeroshell' shown.
There's never been any CFD or empirical wind tunnel measurements published to my knowledge, which associate such a remarkable mpg increase with the addition of such a bedcover.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2023, 10:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 12,873
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1,684 Times in 1,502 Posts
I guess y'all heard about the Ford Trimotor aircraft, which resorted to corrugated sheetmetal for its skin. Had it been detrimental aerodynamically-wise, I guess it would've never been used in aircraft. So if it's good enough for aircraft, why not trying a similar approach for a bedcover in a truck?
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2023, 02:35 AM   #15 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,544
Thanks: 8,086
Thanked 8,878 Times in 7,327 Posts
Quote:
Had it been detrimental aerodynamically-wise, I guess it would've never been used in aircraft.
But it was. It came and went like fixed landing gear.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2023, 12:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,267
Thanks: 24,392
Thanked 7,360 Times in 4,760 Posts
'Trimotor'

Quote:
Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr View Post
I guess y'all heard about the Ford Trimotor aircraft, which resorted to corrugated sheetmetal for its skin. Had it been detrimental aerodynamically-wise, I guess it would've never been used in aircraft. So if it's good enough for aircraft, why not trying a similar approach for a bedcover in a truck?
The Trimotor and Junkers JU 52 both utilized corrugated sheet metal in their day, however, you'll notice that no contemporary aircraft incorporate it in their design.
If it's all you can 'budget' for, then it's 'way out ahead of nothing', but has no intrinsic advantage compared to 'smooth' surfaces.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2023, 02:14 PM   #17 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,544
Thanks: 8,086
Thanked 8,878 Times in 7,327 Posts
There is advantage structurally, but not aerodynamically.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2023, 10:43 PM   #18 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 12,873
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1,684 Times in 1,502 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard View Post
But it was. It came and went like fixed landing gear.
Or taildraggers for instance. The only new aircraft I see resorting to taildraggers are usually cropdusters.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2023, 11:14 AM   #19 (permalink)
Somewhat crazed
 
Piotrsko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 1826 miles WSW of Normal
Posts: 4,369
Thanks: 528
Thanked 1,193 Times in 1,053 Posts
There's a pretty steep learning curve for the ground handling of a tail dragger, particularly at transition speeds. Requires the pilot to be able to predict sideways events otherwise you drag a wing tip or get sideways on the runway. Bad in high wing, worse in low wing and not Intuitive.
__________________
casual notes from the underground:There are some "experts" out there that in reality don't have a clue as to what they are doing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2023, 02:02 PM   #20 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,544
Thanks: 8,086
Thanked 8,878 Times in 7,327 Posts
A tail dragger without wings?



With tricycle landing gear, you can rotate into liftoff, but with a tail dragger wouldn't that drive the tail wheel back onto the ground? I haven't ridden in a light plane since the mid-70s.

__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com