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Old 12-08-2012, 06:07 PM   #31 (permalink)
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My example is more lighthearted. I offered a ride done the block, in my new 1776/5-speed Type III notchback, to my housemate.

At the stop sign I needed to U-turn in the intersection. I romped on it and 3/4 the way around it was pointed right at a 2' ditch and he had both hands on the dashboard. I backed off and that threw the tail out. All I had to do was go opposite lock to point it back down the street. LOL

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Old 12-08-2012, 07:48 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:33 AM   #33 (permalink)
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But you have to touch the brakes to transfer weight to the front.
Depends on the car. My wife wants a license plate holder for her 911: "Lift throttle oversteer--wanna go for a spin?" More modern cars, or lighter, or ones with better weight distribution, require more provocation to get the tail out.

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I'm thinking the rotational momentum is on the spin axis, not the pitch axis, in aeronautical terms. IOW, it will spin without unloading the rear axle.

In other news, I remember a magazine article on handling that described under/oversteer in terms of the roll center height front to rear. Oversteer was high in the rear and low in the front; the wrong way was high in the front and low in the rear.

If I remember that right.

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