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Old 06-11-2008, 02:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone know if a 5 speed transmission out of a 99 suzuki swift (1.3, 4 cyl) would bolt to a 1.0, 3 cyl metro? Thanks

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Old 06-11-2008, 02:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It should, but it depends on the year of the recipient vehicle. There were a few different final drive ratios.

Lifted from another thread here:

The available transmission ratios and what they are out of:

* 3.52:1 1.3L SOHC Swift up to mid year ‘95
* 3.79:1 98-01 4 cylinder Metro
* 3.85:1 XFi Metro
* 3.95:1 mid year ‘95 up 1.3L SOHC Swift
* 4.10:1 Swift GT, GTi, 95 and earlier Metro
* 4.39:1 Metro Convertible, 96+ Metro

So it sounds like you would be swapping the stock 4.39 for 3.79. You might want to see if anyone has done that, it sounds like it could be a little doggish.. I've heard of people putting the 3 cyl trannys on their 4 cyl engines though for a really fun ride.
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I have a 3.52:1 in a 3cyl metro now, and it works well. 13" wheels are a bit of over kill tho. So I run 12 inch. Suppose I had better scrounge the transmission from the swift. The swift has a double overhead cam on a 1.3, but that should not affect transmission, right? Parts are parts! Thanks
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Old 06-29-2008, 09:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Other than gears, they are all the same pretty much.

The GT trans case has one extra hole on the transmission (by oil pan) for a bracket that doesn't exist on any of the other models.

You can still use it without the bracket though.
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I am getting ready to do the 4.39/3.79 swap. I saw somewhere that some swifts had 14" wheels can anyone tell me the stock tire size. there is also a speedo gear for those 14" tires. I have the part # for the gear. thanks
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metroshultz installed a trans from a 1.3 into his 3 cylinder with some help from CoyoteX and he likes the higher gear for highway driving.

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Originally Posted by Johnny Mullet View Post
metroshultz installed a trans from a 1.3 into his 3 cylinder with some help from CoyoteX and he likes the higher gear for highway driving.
what about the speedo ?
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No worries

The Speedo is driven by the gear on the end of the cable.
I used my cable and gear so the speedo reads the same.
I will be putting some 13" rims and tires on soon (I have 12's now),
This means I need the driven gear from a car that had 13's on it. (Fortunately I kept the gear from the Swift)
You can do it. It is a fairly easy swap. Get the torque bar from the donor though, so you don't have to cut and weld like I did.

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99 Firefly 4 cyl tranny

Trying to keep this dying thread alive!!

I may be swapping in a tranny from a 99 firefly with 3.79:1..did you have any success? Any issues with shifter linkage? some of them are cable....

I found one at a local wreckers for a 99 Firefly, 4 door sedan, 4 cyl, with 250000kms on it..what is that worth?

Anyways, nobody really wrote back if they had any problems with the 98-01 4 cyl metro swap onto a G10..so I will if I don't hear back.

lemme know please,

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Other than the different torque bar they are all the same transmissions. So when you get it get the bar and it is a bolt in swap. Clutch and everything else is the same. As far as the speedometer gear here is the interchange information I have dug up.

There are several different speedometer gears for the various tires that have came on the Suzuki Swift, Geo Metro, and 95+ European Subaru Justy. The drive gear inside the transmission is the same number of teeth on all the cars so it does not need to be changed. It is a plastic 18 tooth gear. The only difference is the driven plastic gear. It is the one attached to the speedometer cable and can be removed by taking the single bolt out and gently twisting and pulling it out of the transmission. If it is stuck use penetrating oil to free it up.

The ratios available are:

* 16 tooth brown gear.
* 17 tooth white gear.
* 18 tooth yellow or beige gear.

The cars listed that they came on. I have figured it out based on the tire size on the car.

* Swift GA and Metro Convertible had 165/65R13 tires, the same diameter as the 145/12 tires so had the 18 tooth gear
* Swift GT had 165/65R14 tires, the same diameter as the 155/13 tires so had the 17 tooth gear.
* putting 175/70R14 tires on will require a 16 tooth gear but no cars came stock with it that I know of in the US so it has to be ordered from a dealer or from a junkyard in Canada.


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