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Old 04-30-2018, 05:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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There's something to be said about good old-fashioned copper-wire dialup!!!

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Old 04-30-2018, 05:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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There's something to be said about good old-fashioned copper-wire dialup!!!
That it is bad?

Before: $50 a month and free phone every two years.
Now: $50 a month and a $200 "good" phone I find on my own.

How am I saved from myself?

Part of the reason that I took the full-time school job was because the local service provider snuck in a household data limit. Instead of figuring out who was downloading too much and telling them to cut back, the landlord raised everyone's rent. Allegedly they were also giving us twice as fast a connection, but we needed to ask when it became effective because, not only did we not observe it working better, it still worked poorly.

Apparently the provider up here also has a limit, but instead of being a terabyte, it is only 350 GB, and I still do not know how we hit it. I have been watching "Psych" using data because that is unlimited, although it will probably slow down at some point.

I was trying to find actual news about the teacher strike here and someone posted that the Tempe city council held a vote on creating a municipal 100GB fiber optic system. However, the poster did not link to anything, and all that I found was a brief mention on the city's website stating they considered renting space in the city's conduits for providers to run lines and increase competition.

The poster claimed the deciding no vote was a councilwoman who said "We don't need it, we already have a 100GB system."
"That is only for traffic lights."
"We still do not need it because [the local monopoly] says so."

Brilliant.

When I had a job I often left my phone at home. When I did bring it I rarely used it, but if someone needed to reach me, they had other methods, and they usually used those. My supervisor would not text me from across the room, she sent me e-mails!

The only place with reliable wifi is home, but that has a limit. Only Verizon works here, the last place that I lived, and somewhere I lived before that. It took a while to find out which bargain providers use the Verizon network: https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2375644,00.asp

I will reevaluate my needs when I actually start working.

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I'm not saying you specifically will benefit from decoupling phones from the monthly bill, but that the overall market is better served by reflecting the full price of the phone rather than hiding it in a fancy financing program (FFP, I just invented the acronym).

My guess is the attractive MVNO pricing has reduced market share for plans that bundle phones into the monthly cost, as few people will tolerate $75 monthly bills anymore. There is also the cost you pay by remaining a "loyal" customer by way of rate creep, or in your case, losing the "free" phone.

If you're going to stream video on mobile networks, you're going to spend more for the plan, plain and simple. Voice, text, and most browsing poses little burden on the wireless infrastructure, but video is a much bigger burden.

The only way I exceeded the data cap imposed by CenturyLink was back when I had a 20 device phone farm running video ads 24/7. Never had a problem after that, even with roommates streaming Netflix, etc.

If I were a landlord, I'd probably discuss the issue with the tenants to see if overall they would limit their use, or would rather pay more for a higher tier of service. That said, what people say they will do and what they actually do are often different, so just passing the added cost to the renters is simpler.

I'm paying all utilities including internet for my tenants and monitoring costs. If they get outside of reasonable usage, I will pass that cost on to them. I've got better renters than most.
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There's something to be said about good old-fashioned copper-wire dialup!!!
Pay to receive [direct marketing] calls? I think not.

If I dropped back from 1.5Mbps DSL I could save ~$7 a month.
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It's the upload speed which always sucks, and which is never disclosed in ANY literature. I challenge any person to find out what the improved upload speeds will be.
I tried cell phones a wireless modem. When I asked about the ambiguous literature they invoked the sales manager who assured my down and up were the same speed. (LIES)
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I tried cell phones a wireless modem. When I asked about the ambiguous literature they invoked the sales manager who assured my down and up were the same speed. (LIES)
I used to regularly meet with Sprint reps on behalf of the company I worked for and insisted at least 1 of those reps be a technical sales rep. What's the point of a non-technical sales rep? If I wanted lies, I could just tell them to myself.

It frustrates me to no end that there is even a place for non-technical sales reps in society.

Ask that sales manager to state it in writing with his signature at the bottom.
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Pay to receive [direct marketing] calls? I think not.

If I dropped back from 1.5Mbps DSL I could save ~$7 a month.


I tried cell phones a wireless modem. When I asked about the ambiguous literature they invoked the sales manager who assured my down and up were the same speed. (LIES)
DSL used to be $9.99 around here, good luck finding DSL, let alone $9.99

I guess my $4.99 dialup isn’t a bad deal after all


Funny thing is Sprint had a bring your own free unlimited data plan for a year with no contract and I mean free, you paid no monthly bill

I guess this merger and the free plan make more sense now.
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I used to regularly meet with Sprint reps on behalf of the company I worked for and insisted at least 1 of those reps be a technical sales rep. What's the point of a non-technical sales rep? If I wanted lies, I could just tell them to myself.

It frustrates me to no end that there is even a place for non-technical sales reps in society.

Ask that sales manager to state it in writing with his signature at the bottom.
I couldn't agree more. I meet with sales reps fairly often, but the ones we do a lot of business with give us terrific customer service with technical knowledge.

...then there's that one guy with, probably a great product, who doesn't know his ass from his elbow.
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We've had FAR FAR more computer DSL drop-outs and outages than we've EVER had problems with copper-wire telephone. Loose power and computer/modem stops...and so does the "digital phone."

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