04-10-2008, 08:26 PM
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You're 53x more likely to die in a car than a bike.
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Thanks for the clarification. While now I feel more confident to ride my bike, I'm not getting a warm fuzzy feeling about driving in the morning...
I've seen people ride that bridge route I've described, but it still looks suicidal. I guess perceptions die hard.
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04-10-2008, 08:50 PM
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It says 1 out of 2,067,000 for flying and 1 out of 7,700 for driving....
that, with a footnote of
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Other than the persons aboard the aircraft who were killed, fatalities resulting from the September 11 terrorist acts are excluded.
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Here's some selected data from the original publication for 1996 only (census data) in an easy to read format...
Original publication abstract for raw data here -> http://www.census.gov/prod/www/stati...1995_2000.html
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04-10-2008, 08:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trebuchet03
It says 1 out of 2,067,000 for flying and 1 out of 7,700 for driving....
that, with a footnote of
Here's some selected data from the original publication for 1996 only (census data) in an easy to read format...
Original publication abstract for raw data here -> http://www.census.gov/prod/www/stati...1995_2000.html
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Maybe I'm not reading it right but it say's for cars- 1.3 per 100 million miles and for airlines 1.9 per 100 million miles.
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04-10-2008, 09:06 PM
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Maybe I'm not reading it right but it say's for cars- 1.3 per 100 million miles and for airlines 1.9 per 100 million miles.
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Hrmm, I wasn't even paying attention to that column.... I'll have to look a little harder... Perhaps because it includes aircraft with under 10 seats - I'll look at it
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I crunched the numbers....
Only including commercial airliners....
0.55 deaths per 100,000 aircraft miles.
Now that's off topic for ya
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04-10-2008, 09:58 PM
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wow, i have heard quite a bit about stuff like this but boy is it shocking seeing it like that. i like to see the safety facts for different types of travel, it can really put things into perspective and (in my opinion) shows what scenarios people are more alert in. thanks for doing the research on that
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04-10-2008, 10:03 PM
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I crunched the numbers....
Only including commercial airliners....
0.55 deaths per 100,000 aircraft miles.
Now that's off topic for ya
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Here's a site to help you out but we are getting the thread way OT.
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04-11-2008, 12:32 AM
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Well, to help get this topic back on topic...
I bike to school every day! It's not far though. Only about 12 minutes. Did it all winter, except for a couple times where I had to wear a suit for presentations. And when we had a week where it was -40 in the mornings. It definitely helps me save money for books and tuition. It's also fun, yes! Sometimes I get so into it on the way back home that I just drop my bag off at the house and continue riding around for an hour or more.
The only thing about it is that I made a poor choice when I bought my bike. Of course I got a mountain bike, they were definitely the in thing growing up. I got it in grade 9, and I just graduated from highschool well a year ago. And of course a kid wants to get the one that looks the meanest right? This thing's a brute. thick frame, dual suspension, very thick tires. Shoulda got a road bike.
I'm thinking eventually I'll get a bicycle that fits my needs, and then I'll tinker around with the brute, motorize it, y'know? I'm not good with electronics, so I'd put one of those gas or nitro RC motors, or a weedwacker motor on it. Meh, it's probably just another project that won't get done.
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04-11-2008, 01:34 AM
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Achtung:
You should make a garage entry for your bicycle and keep track of how much mileage you put on it. It can be surprising just how little money goes into this mode of transportation.
Maybe I'm just a huge analyzation and calculation of costs nerd.
I just bought another $40 bike today (my previous white one was stolen ). It's not nearly as comfortable as my first one as the frame is smaller and is a cheap Costco brand, but the gears and chain are much more solid.
I think I'm eventually going to spring for a road bike as well. However I still have this phobia of spending a lot of money on a human powered frame and wheels.
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04-11-2008, 01:44 AM
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I think I'm eventually going to spring for a road bike as well. However I still have this phobia of spending a lot of money on a human powered frame and wheels.
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Obligatory 'bent post
Now if you want to spend a lot on pure awesome fun human powered frame and wheels... I can show you were you can spend a whole LOT But they're so pretty...
Kidding aside... If you're going to put a lot of miles down, think of it as an investment. Well engineered frames and components ride so much better. That 'bent was my first frame without 20+ year old components - that will teach you to appreciate the good stuff Of course, if it gets stolen that just totally sucks :/
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