Tesla Megapack peaking plants up to 730-MWh

[aerohead]

British Petroleum provides a higher drama coefficient,https://www.britannica.com/event/Dee...izon-oil-spill

[freebeard]

What? Non-nuclear energy sources having a little spat?

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by aerohead

British Petroleum provides a higher drama coefficient,https://www.britannica.com/event/Dee...izon-oil-spill

So grid batteries are so terrible your only move is to try and talk about how bad oil is? Tells me all I needed to know.
The Truth is we're going to see fewer or no more deep water horizon disasters and we're going to see a lot more battery fires.

[Piotrsko]

Being way too optimistic on the lack of massive drilling platform fires.

13 years on and I am still awaiting the nuclear unstoppable battery fire in the homebuilt electric ranger since I resolutely refuse to conform.

[aerohead]

I put 'em right up there with Astaroth, toilet paper, and coffee ice cream.
I drove on electrons, from home, out to Morgan Freeman's Ground Zero Blues Club, in Clarksdale, Mississippi and back, never lamenting the CO2 I wasn't spewing into the atmosphere, from my Oklahoma oil wells.
Grid-scale batteries will be more and more part of that calculus moving forwards.
Less 'burn-baby-burn' means more and more hundreds of millions of tons of 'forever-plastics' in the Pacific Gyre, so, one day, I can drive to Honolulu for my fresh pineapple. I make money either way!
PS, I just love the smell of burning Lithium in the morning.

[freebeard]

...Astaroth, toilet paper, and coffee ice cream.

One of those things is not like the others.

Mythology.net
Astaroth - Goetic Demon | Mythology.net
Astaroth is often depicted as one of the demons that serves as the 'Great Duke of Hell' though there is some debate over if he is a demon or was simply brought into existence as a demon when the modern religions of this world rose to power.

[oil pan 4]

I love the smell of 730mwh of batteries sprinting towards net zero in the morning. Smells a little like 60 tons of hydrofluoric acid being released into the atmosphere.
https://youtu.be/pvRJaI2jV-Y

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pvRJaI...ature=youtu.be

[freebeard]

I was wondering whatever happened to liquid tin batteries. I was thinking of this:
www.internationaltin.org/liquid-tin-bismuth-battery-for-grid-scale-energy-storage/

A team at University of Kentucky have patented a liquid metal battery using tin and bismuth electrodes, with molten zinc chloride, for grid-scale energy storage.

...
LMB batteries will support small-scale power grids linked to wind and solar power particularly. They are made relatively simply from commodity metals and so don’t rely on economies of scale to reduce costs. Importantly they are not subject to the same issues of degradation and dendrite formation that limit the life of traditional batteries, giving them potential for unprecedented operational life, possible of up to 20 years. They may outperform conventional technologies including lithium-ion and flow cell because of their unique design, fast charging, high rate capability, long life and manufacturing scalability.

But the technology has been superceded by another
hackaday.com/2024/01/08/liquid-tin-could-be-the-key-to-cheap-plentiful-grid-storage/

The energy recovery process itself is quite unlike most traditional heat storage concepts. When the grid needs energy, liquid tin is pumped around the hot graphite blocks, which heats it up to 2,400 C. The tin is then run through thin graphite tubes, which glow white-hot as it passes through. The light emitted is then turned into electricity by thermophotovoltaic (TPV) cells. They’re essentially similar to solar cells, but they’re fine-tuned to most efficiently generate electricity from the wavelengths output by the graphite in this specific application. Through development, these cells have reached efficiency levels competitive with steam turbines when it comes to turning heat into electricity. The cells are designed to harvest the most high-energy wavelengths of light output by the hot graphite pipes, while reflecting back the rest so that the liquid tin remains as hot as possible.

Which sounds pretty good until you hear that Bill Gates has money behind it.

Interesting Engineering
URL="https://interestingengineering.com › innovation › bill-gates-liquid-tin-energy"]Bill Gates' fund backs liquid tin energy storage startup[/URL]
Dec 15, 2023Bill Gates' fund backs startup offering liquid tin energy storage. Boston-based Fourth Power receives $19 million to develop its technology and for a 1 MWh-e prototype facility.

[Logic]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

No one who simps for commies gets a free pass.

Lets say a film crew follows you around for 10 years filming everything you do.
The they edit and cut the footage to make 2 versions of; Oil Pan the Man.

• 1 in which everything's edited too make you look like a good guy.
• 1 in which everything's edited too make you look like a POS.

This is true for us all...
(out of contexting etc etc also helps)

So which version of just such a movie is 'Now Showing!" in your country..!?
(and worldwide)

Because the 'Joe Public' Russians I have met are generally good friendly people who will share and help as they know what having little is like.
These are the same people that were/are? shot as deserters if they turned around in battle.
So... "commies" means who exactly?
Everyone in Russia?
Or a 'painted picture'?
Or certain individuals?

I find putting a broader extra thought or 2 into thoughts seeded by 'The Narrative' is ... illuminating...

That said:
How long is 'The News' if every gasoline car that catches fire is put on the news?
Similarly;
Vaping is or was... all over the news, killing people.
How long will "The News' be if they give as much time to every cigarette smoker who died today as a result.

You wont, but putting a thought or 2 into "who really owns CNN, CBS, Fox, etc-etc is an interesting dead end of shell companies etc.
There's no better way of spreading 'your version of the truth' than finding someone who truly believes the script handed to him and putting him in font of a 'news' camera in a suit.
Or just paying someone that has all that all set up already.

[Logic]

Originally Posted by aerohead

As an associate of Klaatu, stationed at our Earth-Observing, and listening post, at the Sea of Tranquility, our intercepts of communications inform us that, climate mitigation, as a function of government policy, has been continuously frustrated by a passive mechanism in the form of the 'Due Process' clause, of the 14th-Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which has stood since 1885.
As a structural road block, baked into the 'American' system, there's a low probability that it can ever be rectified, and so, any grand gesture 'solution' to the Earth climate challenge would, by default, have to come from outside the 'beltway.'
That said, we people of the solar system have taken extreme comfort from any mistakes made in the people's interest, and activities that fell through the cracks by public servants, academia, the National Academy of Sciences, the National Laboratories, CIA, NRO, NSA, FBI, Military Intelligence, RAND Corporation, US Congress Special Committees, and the private sector, etc.; whom escaped the clutches of Washington lobbyists of a certain stripe.
While we reserve the option of activating Gort, we'll continue to monitor for the time being.

Interesting...
Is it just me, or did you just say 'the system is rigged' and that's it's basically lobbyists running 'the show'?
Lobbiests being; extremely (financially) powerful corporations or groups?
Like the oil industry for 1 example..?