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Old 05-31-2013, 02:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Average person spends 11 minutes or more at a gas station so 20 minute to charge an EV while driving a long trip is not bad at all! after a few hours of driving it's a good idea to get out and stretch anyway.
Their web site says they will have regular J1772 charging plugs as well, I wonder what the deal is to use one of them for charging other EV's.
I have't seen any official published cost, but the Tesla web site says that the super chargers are only free automatically to the upper two models of the Model S and that to use it for the lower version there is a one time fee ($2,000 I hear) not sure if that fee also adds hard ware to the vehicle or if the car just has a dead plug in the back.

One of the next phase of super chargers is putting one up about 30 miles from me, right off I-94, so it will be interesting to see where it ends up in that area.
I really wonder what other electric car manufacturers will do if this starts making good progress. I believe that Tesla.com said that a year's worth of gas was almost $5,000, while electricity would be less than $1,000, but that was for 30,000 miles. Halving that to EPA's average means that it would take a little over four years to break even (on the one-time fee), but that does not sound bad at all. Being able to charge non-Tesla cars would slightly remove Tesla's advantage, but they would still take hours to charge.

Do you think there would be taxis waiting around?

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FWIW, about the "only" drivers these days who drive 55 mph are those who are entering a freeway on-ramp on their way UP to their normal 65-75-80 mph 'jaunt.'
Does anyone else here hit fifty-five on the on-ramp?

I imagine that most people will consider the 55 MPH estimates to be "unreasonable," but people already willingly pay more to drive too fast.

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The base Model S has 208 miles of range (according to the Tesla site), the higher trims have 265 miles. How often do you really drive that far in one jaunt??? Chances are a Model S owner also probably has another vehicle. If they need to drive 500 miles in a day they can just take that. I'm really not even seeing a problem here.
I try to avoid driving at all, but I honestly do not remember the last time that I drove further than the 165 miles to my parents' house. I have driven to California with my family, but not in my vehicle, and I rarely actually drove.

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Old 06-01-2013, 05:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Does anyone know how they will be powered? Is it just the regular old grid?
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Does anyone know how they will be powered? Is it just the regular old grid?
Mostly. The article states that some will use solar also.
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Tesla would be smart to advertise "potty & power" at those EV stops: pee for free while your EV gets charged for free!
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I usually hit 65-80 on the on ramp.
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Tesla would be smart to advertise "potty & power" at those EV stops: pee for free while your EV gets charged for free!
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some will use solar also.
120kw? of solar at a car charging station, no I don't think so.
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120kw? of solar at a car charging station, no I don't think so.
I apologize - I was unaware that you suffered from nectuntphobia. Please allow me to provide this quote:
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Musk also said there is grid storage using huge, half-megawatthour batteries at some of the stations that have solar power, where stationary batteries take energy from the sun and store it until a Model S pulls up. That means these stations can be completely taken off the grid, so that "even if there is a zombie apocalypse," Musk said, "you will still be able to travel throughout the country using Superchargers."
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I apologize - I was unaware that you suffered from nectuntphobia. Please allow me to provide this quote:
...the next post-apocalyptic Mad Max would choose a black hi-po extra-range run-flat tired zombie plow bumpered - Tesla Model X - running from one Supercharger to another!

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