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Old 01-19-2015, 07:53 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Hafta admit I blew it. :/ Well there was damn little supporting evidence on the yard's site. Gotta make the phone call to be sure.

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Dude, chill. My last post was meant to be a reply to Xist as I thought he may have misconstrued a previous comment by dirtydave. I actually think this whole thing is fairly comical.

Oh, by the way, I never looked it up in the first place so I would appreciate if you would kindly refrain from telling ME what I did or did not do when you have absolutely NO CLUE as to what I am doing. If you look at my prior posts in this thread you'll also see that I never once said it was fake, so please don't lie about that either.

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I am not the ecomodder community. I am one dude who is on the internet.
I can type anything I want! DO NOT FORGET THIS IS THE INTERNET!

I figured you worked for the scrapyard! Spam has been everywhere around here lately! Think about it... a new member from this month, from AZ, posting about a Tesla in bumfukk Canada. Then gets pissed when people question it.....

Seriously.... look again at the post! spam written all over it!

Anyways...

I called NASA today and they said they would sell the ol' discovery for 2.4 MIL.



found this while looking around thought this may help someone.

Anyone need a old rocket booster/? DIY rocketcar??
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148,221,675 Miles
2/24/2011
Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center
14390 Air and Space Museum Parkway,
Chantilly, VA 20151
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(just because I said that does it make it true??)
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Old 01-19-2015, 10:16 PM   #44 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=dirtydave;464538]
I called NASA today and they said they would sell the ol' discovery for 2.4 MIL.



found this while looking around thought this may help someone.

Anyone need a old rocket booster/? DIY rocketcar??
1983
NASA
NOT ACTUALLY AVAILABLE
148,221,675 Miles
2/24/2011
Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center
14390 Air and Space Museum Parkway,
Chantilly, VA 20151
P: (703) 572-4118


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Old 01-19-2015, 10:19 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Has the seller offered the buyer any warranty.
Sorry I forgot to include that in my previous post from the phone call.
They told me they offer 120 days.

Which is very little ... but it is junk yard parts.

Still $15k for a 270~310kw Model-S electric drive , is not a bad price ... but would be a significant gamble , coming from a Junk Yard.
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Old 01-19-2015, 11:07 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Sorry I forgot to include that in my previous post from the phone call.
They told me they offer 120 days.

Which is very little ... but it is junk yard parts.

Still $15k for a 270~310kw Model-S electric drive , is not a bad price ... but would be a significant gamble , coming from a Junk Yard.
OK, who would want a Tesla electric drive?
All of the Teslas on the road today would not still be under the factory warranty, right?
What is the return policy of the salvage yard on a battery shipped to Europe?
Does the buyer have to pay freight both ways?
Does the seller even have the capability to charge the battery or test the capacity of the battery?

Now if I had a Model S that had been "bricked" , say I bought it in an unclaimed storage container, nice and cheap and only needed a battery, it might be worth the risk, if I had some recourse, but remember the caveat
"no returns on electrical parts".

How can they warranty what they can not replace and probably can not repair?

The insurance companies tried to "character assasinate" the repair shops by getting an estimate to build a 1973 Chevrolet. The estimate was 18k. The car cost 3k new.

I worked at a dealership when Subarus first came to the US around 1973. The car cost $2395.

Two front drive axles
$750
Two front knuckles (where the bearings are located)
$1748

Thats more money for 4 parts than the price of the whole car.
I told them just take a new car and disassemble it and they would have every part you could ever need.
If they had done that they would still have some of those parts on the shelf
42 years later.

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Does anyone know the loss scenario, collision, flood, fire, theft? It makes a huge difference in the value of the "remains" of the vehicle as well as the value of the used parts. Was the car lifted (all 5000 + pounds of it) with a fork lift, which is standard operating procedure for salvage disposal yards, and if so what could be the potential damage to the battery or drive components.

Remember Ben Nelsons MIEV?

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Does anyone know the loss scenario, collision, flood, fire, theft? It makes a huge difference in the value of the "remains" of the vehicle as well as the value of the used parts. Was the car lifted (all 5000 + pounds of it) with a fork lift, which is standard operating procedure for salvage disposal yards, and if so what could be the potential damage to the battery or drive components.

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If someone can do a carfax on the vin.

5YJSA1DP9DFP26725

But reading the parts conditions listed the only things notable are...

Headlights destroyed only wiring and module avail. Light scratches on pass side qp mirror motor on pass side full mirror on driver. "Gouges" in the front seats air bags have fully deployed infotainment center says its still good however. And rear bumper says its lower is damaged but repairable...

Which is somewhat strange... doesnt sound like much damage.
 
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OK, who would want a Tesla electric drive?
Not me... far too much power than I would ever need / use ... but maybe someone else wants that much kw.

Only type of person / situation that it might fit with would be someone who wanted 270-310kw etc ... BEV DIY project ... but still seems like a hassle to me... Tesla definitely won't help you do it.

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All of the Teslas on the road today would not still be under the factory warranty, right?
AFAIK ... 8 years 125,000 miles

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What is the return policy of the salvage yard on a battery shipped to Europe?
Does the buyer have to pay freight both ways?
I was told 120 days .. and yes buyer picks it up .. or pays all shipping .. taxes .. etc.

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Does the seller even have the capability to charge the battery or test the capacity of the battery?
I doubt it.

My experience with other junk yards is that 99% of them do not have a firm grasp of battery chemistry ... nor equipment to properly test them .. nor a desire to do such work... 99% are only motivated enough to sell it... In this case they did not comment to me about what the person in Europe paid .. but seems to me whoever it was made a big gamble ... Whatever the price$ was ... +Shipping .. +Taxes .. only 120 day warranty ... that's a big gamble.

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How can they warranty what they can not replace and probably can not repair?
My only guess would be a 'refund' .. but .. to be 100% certain it would be best to get it in writing ... and a important point you pointed out above .. less all the lost freight charges ... to get it in the first place ... and possibly to return it.

I've had to deal with that very kind of 'warranty' coverage from some vendors at work ... pay for shipping to get it .. pay for shipping to return defective product... They charge the fee .. and issue the 'credit' after they get the return.

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Another thing to keep in mind about buying parts from a junk yard on a car that was on the road for less than 1 year ... and cost over $60,000 to buy ... The insurance company looked at the 'repair' cost , and did not choose to repair it ... or the car would not have ended up in a Junk yard in the first place ... Sure the used ~1 year old car with ~10k miles on it is worth a little less ... but still ... not likely to be minor ... nor superficial damage.

Far worse than the 'storage shed' brick , that just needs a 'compatible' battery.
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If someone can do a carfax on the vin.
See previous Post #26 copy of the carfax that they sent me.

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