Thinking about my next car?

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by cuda47

The Sedan was made for China, as the C-Elysée...

The first C-Elysée was based on the ZX/Fukang, while the C4 sedan was called C-Triomphe in China and C4 Pallas in South America (where it was supplied from Argentina).

[cuda47]

Exactly

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

A friend who lives in Portugal told me the C-Elysée is more comfortable than the current Argentinian C4 Lounge sedan. Even though I guess some of your preference for the early C4 is due to its sporty design, would a C-Elysée be totally out of question?

[hayden55]

Wheel covers, emissions delete, remap, and some aero mods and I can for sure see huge mpgs with this one.

[cuda47]

Yes, if i sum up the improvements:
- Remap i think it could be possible to win 1L/100).
- Lighter wheels (Citroen have some light wheel).
- Front grill blocked.

I do not know how much i can go/reach ....

I also can use hubca of Ctroën Xm:

[cuda47]

Hello here,
i have some question....

I had a look at the way i take every day to go to work.

It is around 17 Km long (10.5 Miles), and max speed is 80 km/h ( 50 Mph).
The positive height difference is 160m and negative 91m.

The main thing to have a look concerning the car, is the weight before the aero (In France, it is called "Cx" for the drag coefficient , and "SCx" for the area drag), right?

On a such short distance, a difference between a Cx of 0.28 and 0.31 is not very important.
But, a difference between a weight of 640 Kg (Citroën Ax - 1410 lbs) and my convertible with 1410Kg (3110 lbs) is more imprtant.

The problem is, if i want a light car, the engine is light, and need to shiftdown in uphill....

[Ecky]

Originally Posted by cuda47

The problem is, if i want a light car, the engine is light, and need to shiftdown in uphill....

This is all in the gearing, and has little to do with how light or heavy a car is.

Look at it this way: If you don't have to downshift when going uphill, your gearing is too short. If your new car does need to downshift, it has a better top gear for fuel economy on the flats.

In the US we have a lot of long-haul trucks, and they may need to downshift several times for even the shallowest grades. They're both heavy and have heavy engines, but they have good enough gearing that they can get almost full load on flat roads.

[320touring]

Based on the reputation and reported issues with the 1.6 HDi in every car it is fitted to (at least in the UK), I'd shy away from it.

Commonly found in the Peugeot and Citroen range, but also rebadged as a tdci in the ford range too.

Common wisdom seems to be get the 2.0. HDi instead.

The C4 is a cool car, well styled though build quality could be a bit better. The Picasso (MPV version) is very practical, doubling as a van.

If you would not be confused by RHD, it may be worth a trip to the UK to buy one, and import it?

£795 / €920 / $1050

https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-...795/1334014308

Happy to help if you need a hand sourcing a UK car

[airbiteses]

My sister has this citroen C4 5 door with 1.4 gasoline engine. And smokes in mixed mode 7-8 liters. Previously, they had a Fiat Stilo 5 door with a 1.6 petrol engine and burned 6-6.5 liters in mixed mode. They are not satisfied with Citroen C4.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by 320touring

Based on the reputation and reported issues with the 1.6 HDi in every car it is fitted to (at least in the UK), I'd shy away from it.

A friend who moved to Portugal got to love the 1.6 HDi, but he says the version used in some Volvo models is better than the ones fitted to Ford and Citroën/Peugeot.