02-26-2019, 09:11 AM
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Thinking about my next car?
Hello all,
i'm looking for changing my car in next months.
Fuel price are a little bit high in France (Around 1.65 US $ a liter....), so, i have many ideas for the next car:
- Diesel with improvements.
- LPG
- Hybrid....
In Europe, Diesel cars are around 47 MPG in "standard" configuration (if you choose a dows-sized engine).
LPG: Exept Dacia Sandera / Opel Corsa there is not a lot of choice...
Hybrid: prius ...
In France, the governement is making all he can to kill thermic car, pollution, you see? (electric is better with palladium-ion etc... batteries, nuclear electricity....)
There is a common car called Ctroen C4 ("classic" or coupé)....
The cupé is this one:
Cd: 0.28
With the 1.6 hdi engine (Noisy Diesel), 50 mgp is possible.
An engine remaping should hit 60 mpg....
Wheels can be changed by lighter, front grill colsed, etc...
What do you think about that?
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02-26-2019, 09:00 PM
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Nice shape, looks kinda fun, useful hatch, great economy, what's not to like? We don't have any Citroen in the US so I can't say I've had any personal experience with them. What other choices do you have?
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02-26-2019, 09:06 PM
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Opel Ampera? Though, I am partial...
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Quote:
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Nice shape, looks kinda fun, useful hatch, great economy, what's not to like? We don't have any Citroen in the US so I can't say I've had any personal experience with them. What other choices do you have?
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=> These are great car with an extrem good handling.
This brand is well know for the comfort, but the C4 is a little bit stiff....
The problem?
I love the design, but not very
practical, because i'm always doing hme improvements (DIY), and i have a lot of thing to carry....
By the way, if i take the way of LPG, it is a sandero the best choice.
A minivan shold be perfect, but aerodynimic is pretty bad....
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02-27-2019, 08:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecky
Nice shape, looks kinda fun, useful hatch, great economy, what's not to like? We don't have any Citroen in the US so I can't say I've had any personal experience with them. What other choices do you have?
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=> To complete, the Citroen C4 is made in 5 models:
3 doors car:
4 doors car (Sedan):
5 doors car:
Short minivan (5 seats):
Long minivan (7 seats):
One distinctive characteristic is the steering wheel: The hub is fixed:
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02-27-2019, 12:22 PM
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One distinctive characteristic is the steering wheel: The hub is fixed:
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Ok, they got me, that's cool AF
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02-27-2019, 10:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cuda47
=> These are great car with an extrem good handling.
This brand is well know for the comfort, but the C4 is a little bit stiff....
The problem?
I love the design, but not very
practical, because i'm always doing hme improvements (DIY), and i have a lot of thing to carry....
By the way, if i take the way of LPG, it is a sandero the best choice.
A minivan shold be perfect, but aerodynimic is pretty bad....
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How about a c4 and a trailer for those diy-projects?
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02-27-2019, 10:47 PM
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Your C4 will tow over 650kg, take out 150kg for the weight of the trailer and that still leaves you with 500kg of payload . That's a lot of supplies for home improvements. And when you're not pulling cargo , you can stash the trailer out of the way and enjoy your car's usual thrifty ways.
A trailer hitch can also be the basis for a small, easily removed boat tail to make your car even more fuel efficient .
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02-27-2019, 11:09 PM
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Some 13 years ago, a former neighbor got a C4 coupé to replace his Opel Vectra B.
BTW where was the C4 sedan made? AFAIK it was only made in China and Argentina.
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02-28-2019, 02:37 AM
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Quote:
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How about a c4 and a trailer for those diy-projects?
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=> That's an idea...
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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr
Some 13 years ago, a former neighbor got a C4 coupé to replace his Opel Vectra B.
BTW where was the C4 sedan made? AFAIK it was only made in China and Argentina.
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=>The Sedan was made for China, as the C-Elysée...
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