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Old 10-13-2010, 03:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Plus, you should be downshifting and using the engine for braking on long downhills (and getting "infinite" MPG for the duration!) and not heating up your brakes very much at all.

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Plus, you should be downshifting and using the engine for braking on long downhills (and getting "infinite" MPG for the duration!) and not heating up your brakes very much at all.
I agree! I only use my brakes for unanticipated deceleration and full stops. DFCO is your friend if used appropriately.
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Do any cars besides the Scion turn off the fuel injectors when you downshift?
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Do any cars besides the Scion turn off the fuel injectors when you downshift?
I think it's pretty common. My 1999 Saturn SW2 will turn them off above 2500 RPM in 3rd gear. Obviously, 2500 RPM is "1999 conservative". If programmed today then I would guess that number to be about 1200 RPM.

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I've heard the Fords are supposed to do that, but on the other hand, when I want to decelerate w/o brakes it is noticeably better when I key off.
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Would Scangauge show that your fuel injectors are off?

For example, "∞ MPG," or in the case of the Scion, "9999 MPG?

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I've heard the Fords are supposed to do that, but on the other hand, when I want to decelerate w/o brakes it is noticeably better when I key off.
It sounds like your injectors are still fueling.

The salesman actually showed me a Saturn before they brought over the Forester that I bought. I just did not know anything about Saturns, although I hardly knew anything about Subarus.

Saturns have always been aerodynamic, while Subarus have always been AWD, and the Forester was boxy.

It almost seems like that was all that I needed to know.
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I think it's pretty common. My 1999 Saturn SW2 will turn them off above 2500 RPM in 3rd gear. Obviously, 2500 RPM is "1999 conservative". If programmed today then I would guess that number to be about 1200 RPM.

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My 1981 Datsun cuts fuel above around 3000 rpm (it's better than nothing I suppose).
It only ever happens on a particular long, steep hill on my commute and feels like engine braking suddenly increases.
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DIY injection cut-off??

I wonder if, in cars which do not cut off fuel injection, you could arrange a DIY conversion?

Maybe a vacuum switch to show deceleration and an arguino setup to check engine revs...??

I wonder if you'd get worthwhile results?
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Here is a drag table I put together for the effect of wheel skirts on a Jaray-bodied 1936 Adler.The data was provided by Alex Tremulis.

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