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Old 08-16-2020, 11:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Bucky Fuller talked about the tools that make the tools that make the thing, and I hear Elon Musk has said the same thing.
Machines that make machines. We're pretty far beyond that if you ask me. We're on to brains making the brains that run the machines.

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tiny 'home'

Perhaps it's intelligent to limit the topic to a singularity as far as the general public goes.
A stationary, permanently installed, energy-autonomous, and zero-carbon home. That's probably enough for the 'typical' consumer to digest in a single sitting.
If one wants to steer the conversation towards frequently towed trailers, that could become its own conversation and investigation.
A friend, near Paso Robles, California, has many neighbors with tiny homes. They're all aerodynamic abominations as trailers, but they only made a single 'road trip' as a 'home'. And that's all they'll ever make.
Don't confuse the troops.
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The Tesla example is a 1U cuboid shape.

I speculated on a U-Haul/Airstream form. My own domicile is 8x8x35 with 24" radiuses on the top edges and 21" radius on the ends.

My tiny house design has a mortice and tenoned frame fish-mouthed and strapped to the axles with no springs and a tow ring instead of a tongue and hitch. Not stationary, not roadable. [needs pix]
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A friend, near Paso Robles, California, has many neighbors with tiny homes. They're all aerodynamic abominations as trailers, but they only made a single 'road trip' as a 'home'. And that's all they'll ever make.
Even though it might seem pointless to be so obsessed with aerodynamics of a trailer that would be parked permanently, this makes me wonder if there would actually be any benefit when it comes to a higher suitability to extreme weather or an easier maintenance.
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I made some progress on my tiny house design. I'm up to bench level. I'm debating a Gothic arch vs a flatten gable. Weather vs interior volume.
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Weather vs interior volume.
I'd also add thermal efficiency as a matter of concern if I were building a tiny house. Would prefer to keep most of the plumbing concentrated to the middle of the floorplan, as an attempt to decrease the waste of heat through the external walls. Presumably it would also be cheaper.
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Shorter plumbing runs, yes. You're just moving heat from outside radiation to inside radiation which may be a benefit in your climate, but the insulation additions to keep the heat in the core may negate the cheaper plumbing.
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Shorter plumbing runs, yes. You're just moving heat from outside radiation to inside radiation which may be a benefit in your climate, but the insulation additions to keep the heat in the core may negate the cheaper plumbing.
Even if it would still be insulated enough to prevent heat irradiation to become discomfortable on summertime, the lower cost with plumbing is already a desirable feature. Not to mention the shorter plumbing runs would decrease the heat loss on the way from the boiler to the tap or the shower, which would allow to use fewer power.

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