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Old 11-25-2015, 02:54 PM   #21 (permalink)
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1911 Franklin. I believe Franklins were air-cooled.

Notice the divider in the seat. I couldn't walk up to it with a tape measure, but the seat is narrower than the steering wheel and would hold one headlight. Maybe 16-18" wide. No elbow-room.

Maybe people were chummier back then?

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Old 11-25-2015, 09:25 PM   #24 (permalink)
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But there are people out here (and not all of us are young and poor) who never have occasion to carry more than one other person. So why should we have our buying choices limited to 4-door sedans?
We shouldn't. But in most every market, taxes are specifically structured to put people in certain cars. In the US, it's domestic pick-ups (chicken tax... though right now it's pretty useless, since the "imports" have nearly as many factories stateside... and CAFE regs that go by footprint and are more lenient on trucks), in Japan it's Kei cars. And in India, it's sub-4 meter sedans with 1.2 liter engines.

I imagine an S-FR, equipped with a 1.2 turbo, could make a mockery of that tax exemption. Just like Honda did with a local tax exemption for 10 seat vehicles.

They stuck a third row bench into the trunk of the CR-V and all of a sudden had a crossover selling for 2/3rds the price of a RAV4. The government, upon seeing this, realized how stupid the exemption was, and dropped it.

I think the S-FR could open up new markets for Toyota. But again, sports car buyers are such snobs that it probably won't sell in huge numbers.
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1911 Franklin.
I WANT ONE! It'd be great for running around the dirt roads. Just have to do something about the aero on those headlights...

I believe Franklins were air-cooled.

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Skinnier, for sure.
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It looks like a cross between the Toyota 2000 (1960s sports car, exotic, limited run, very rare) and the Toyota 1000 (1970s mass produced car, funny looking, all rusted away long ago)
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I like the way it looks ... unique, but in a good way.

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But there are people out here (and not all of us are young and poor) who never have occasion to carry more than one other person. So why should we have our buying choices limited to 4-door sedans?
Sure. But that wasn't my point regarding thepassenger capacity of this car.
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jamesqf -- Late headlights off a Leaf or something, swapped side-for-side and placed on the inside of the thin fenders. BMW i3 tires on 4x19 wires.

Even thin people have elbows. Somebodies going to have to be a hugger. Prolly the passenger.

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